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putting a beetle thermostat on a Type 4
kombikim - December 9th, 2003 at 05:06 PM

is there any reason why I should not adapt a beetle thermostat to fit the kombi 2L, fitting it is easy enough, just wondering about length of travel & opening temp, this one has 65 deg engraved on it:jesus


Andy - December 9th, 2003 at 05:12 PM

Have a look see
http://www.busdepot.com/details.jsp?partnumber=111119159A 
From memory proper type 4 thermostats switch ~80 or 90C, but 65 should be fine.
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kombikim - December 9th, 2003 at 11:09 PM

yep, I can't see why it won't fit OK with a little fiddling, it is the warm up time to 60c that seems to take ages on ours, after that every thing is OK


1303Steve - December 10th, 2003 at 12:16 AM

Hi

It cant hurt, just make sure you dont over stretch the bellows.

1302Steve


vw54 - December 10th, 2003 at 07:28 PM

Kim test it out in a pot of boiling water to see if its still good. this may save some time.

As for the opening temps I dont see why they would be different for a type 1 to a type 4 air cooled engine.

Will the threaded end of teh thermostat fit up to the Type 4 cable ???


kombikim - December 10th, 2003 at 08:08 PM

It is New, I have figured that 65c opening temp of upright motors is far better than the 90c opening of the correct one - for Aust, anyway, mine with no thermostat took 20 mins driving home from work today to reach 65c oil temp in 20-25c ambient temp conditions, I have a coupla dodgy ideas to adapt it to cable & will have good or bad answer by 1 A.M.
:(


kombikim - December 10th, 2003 at 10:53 PM

so, after 2 years of:jesus
I have finally done it engine heats up to satisfactory temp in 8 mins from dead cold, instead of 20 if lucky
first pic is old & new & result of 10 mins scrounging in garage for conversion bits
pic taken 10pm
2nd pic 10.45 , by 11.20pm I had confirmed success,
yea hey hey- choonka choonka - woops they are coming to take me back to that place


Andy - December 11th, 2003 at 12:11 AM

Good work Kim, looks the goods!
JUST REMEMBER the thermostat heats up from spent cooling air from the heads/barrels, NOTHING to do with oil temp. So it will reach the set temp long before the oil gets to operating temp.

Dave, type 4 and type 1 thermostats definitely switch at different temps. VW must have had their reasons, but a type 1 thermostat will be better than none ;) As Kim says, will be fine for our climate.
As for checking them, you can tell by their length when cold. They usually (well pretty much always) fail by cracking and leaking which means the don't pull closed anymore. See Kim's pic to compare.
:thumb


vw54 - December 11th, 2003 at 06:05 AM

Yes i say the opening earlier in our weather would be better, dont know too much about the Type 4 engines never had the opertunaty.

Great to see you solved the problem Kim.. good work.


kombikim - December 11th, 2003 at 07:22 AM

thanks Dave, , thanks for the tip about checking if it works before fitting, it will be interesting just how long they actually work from new.
Andy, I haven't checked yet how long it takes to open from cold yet - another use for the webcam in engine bay linked to laptop computer at front :D


Andy - December 11th, 2003 at 09:24 AM

I thought that's what kids are for :D :bounce :D


kombikim - December 11th, 2003 at 10:27 AM

unfortunately that is no longer legal in NSW & by the time they can convey intelligent information, they dont fit in the engine bay anyway:(


vw54 - December 11th, 2003 at 05:59 PM

Yeah i think jamming the kids in the engine bay n watching the thermostat open might be a bit illeagal....

but wait theres always a use for the other half isnt there. !!!!

If she screams just drive faster !!!


Andy - December 11th, 2003 at 07:10 PM

Well, that depends on what she looks like :P


vw54 - December 11th, 2003 at 09:45 PM

No its to stop them nagging you while yr driving


kombikim - December 11th, 2003 at 10:05 PM

well ! that was a dumb idea , she is stuck in there, still nagging & the car wont start cause shes pulled a few wires, now what do I do?


Andy - December 11th, 2003 at 10:14 PM

Drop a rat down the air inlet and stand back :thumb
Be quick before any more damage is caused.
Tie 'em up next time :jesus


kombikim - December 11th, 2003 at 10:19 PM

:o I only have cats, not sure if that will work , guess I will have to contact Barry, he has ALL sorts of animals:jesus


vw54 - December 12th, 2003 at 06:36 AM

Leave a bit of extra rope when you tie up the arms.... so it gets caught in the fan when its spinning over... make sure your near a fire hose when you open the engine lid as it will need a hose out.

Gee we are a mean lot ... oh well shit happens


kombikim - December 12th, 2003 at 07:58 AM

Kim cant come to the internet right now, a bottle of metho was accidently poured down his undies, - Jenny:thumb