hi people, just being under the bug, ummm has anyone got pics of swingarm suspension, and also IRS.

or is there any real easy way to check? at a guess I'd say it looks swingarm to me.

it is a 4/70 build with balljoint front end, not a super.

It would be a swing arm, gearbox has an axle tube that runs to the wheels, rubber boot at the gearbox end. IRS have trailing arms and CV joints and exposed axles. (Like Datsun 1600 or new Commadore etc).

thanks craig, I was led to believe that swingarm was introduced before the supers, and ours was the last before the supers, therefore IRS, but apparently I was wrong.

wierd cars.

oh, is that a good thing or a bad thing? I thought swingarms were unstable?

PS someones doing something silly, either danielle uses the 'back' button too much, or the software changes the login without telling us.

[Edited on 5-3-2004 by lulu94]

yeah the easy way to tell them apart is if you see CV's or not. The original beetles all had swing axles until 1968 where only the Semi-Automatic models had the 4 joint suspension.

Yes Lulu94,
All standard Beetles had the swing arm rear axle [excepting the semi auto beetles from 1968-76.] until the LAST model Beetle made in Australia in1976 , which was the standard [not super] Beetle... it did have the [so called] IRS rear suspension. They DID have the IRS suspension on standard Beetles in the USA , from 1969> , but they Never Had Disc brakes on Beetles in the USA ....
Your 1970 beetle will have a rear anti-sway bar above the rear axle... and the rear track is increased over the earlier models.... so it should be safer...

Lee Noonan

this should have been a reply to Lulu94 on the Swing axle or IRS rear end in their 4/70 Beetle...
I guess I pressed a wrong button...

Lee

thanks lee, it was actually me asking about that, prolly still was logged in on her nick