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front beam grease
kombi_kid - January 5th, 2003 at 07:59 PM

hey
i had to clean out all of the grease out of the front beam just want to know what sort of grease you use and how much(says in manual general purpose grease to specifications).
cheers
rhys


vwrallycar - January 5th, 2003 at 10:13 PM

well i dont think u need any special grease but u grease it till it comes out at each arm


68AutoBug - January 5th, 2003 at 10:53 PM

Rhys,
Only use general purpose grease on a door lock or similar NON Important item. For a VW....[or anything else] Where Grease has to do a hard job [readHeavy Duty] Buy a couple of tubes of Lithium based grease. The dark grey-black sticky slippery grease... the one if You get it on Your Best shirt - it will NEVER come out.... It has Molydxxxxxxx You know, all the good stuff in it.... If You get a noisy CV joint, pack the joint full of Lithium Moly grease and the noise usually disappears ... I have fixed many a noisy CV joint, even in front wheel drive cars.... with Molydxxxxx or Lithium based grease.... Common grease usually has soap as its base......
Also Don't forget... to grease the front end of a VW properly, the front end must be off the ground.... so the grease can circulate in all the correct places, and keep pumping until grease starts coming out past the torsion bar seals... remember if You drive thru deep water, always grease the front end when You can afterwards, as the grease should displace any water that has happened to get inside the torsion tubes.... :thumb:thumb:thumb


vw54 - January 6th, 2003 at 05:45 AM

Rhys

Just use Standard general purpose grease for the front end beam. Make sure you fill it up before you fit the trailing arms with as much grease as you can stuff in there.
then refit the trail arms and start pumping. Also after you getteh car going try and re grease the front end every 500 miles or so as the grease mooves around inside the tubes untill its full. I had to do mine about 5 or 6 times until i found it was completely full.


kombi_kid - January 6th, 2003 at 04:06 PM

which to use?????? general purpose or molylithium based???
general purpose is way cheaper .;.....
hhhhmmmmmmm
cheers
rhys


amazer - January 6th, 2003 at 08:58 PM

GP. And use a drylube stick on your doors.


Andy - January 6th, 2003 at 09:52 PM

Would it be safe to assume that the lithium based grease would do a better job? Or at least will do an equal job? That's what I've been using.
Andy


kombi_kid - January 7th, 2003 at 07:04 AM

can both these grease's be mixed together??????
cheers
rhys


aussiebug - January 9th, 2003 at 03:52 PM

Whew - there's some confusion here.

The wheel bearings on all VWs, and the torsion bar tubes on bugs should have Lithium wheel bearing grease in them (Castrol LM or similar).

Moly grease (which is Lithium grease with about 3% molybenum disulphide added) is used in ball joints and in the CVs on the IRS axles. This is commonly called Moly grease to separate it from "normal" Lithium wheel bearing grease.

Moly grease is easily identifiable by it's black and very sticky nature.

Castrol LMM or similar.

To sumarise...

Lithium wheel bearing grease (Castrol LM)for wheel bearings and front torsion bar regreasings.

Moly grease (Castrol LMM) for CV joints and ball joints.

And before you tell me that ball joints are sealed for life - yes I know but my 68 has it's original ball joints which have grease nipples, and in any case you can extend the life of the sealed ball joints by injecting Moly grease in under the rubber boot.

No - you should not mix the two - it porobably won't hurt by the two types have slightly different formulas for different uses.


68AutoBug - January 9th, 2003 at 04:14 PM

You can use $2.99 tubes of soap based grease if You think Your car is worth much... or You can USE the Best first time up... and stick with it... try putting GP grease in a worn CV & see how it goes...
Moly-Lithium based grease is JUST the best... Books say use GP because its cheap... & its cheap... & useless... IMHO.
No flames... Just how I think... and My parts last virtually forever....
Is You Car Worth a few tubes of Moly-Lithium grease??? Its CHEAP Insurance against wear.... I Hate Wear... and I hate General Purpose Grease...
Its JUST how I am.... Moly-Lithium grease isn't all that expensive and once the front end is full it only takes a couple of squirts every few weeks.... to make the bushes or BEARINGS last as LONG as POSSIBLE...
I've used Moly grease since 1964 - on My fathers 64 Beetle... and have ever since..


Che Castro - January 9th, 2003 at 05:33 PM

i dont think ur not supposed to use grease or any kind of sticky lubricant in door locks as it attracts dirt and dust and wears it out. ur supposed to use graphite or some other similar dry lube.