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Just Broke My Handbrake Cable - Advice?
phantom - October 19th, 2004 at 12:13 PM

I just broke a handbrake cable in my 69 bug, I've been perusing the workshop manual for the procedures to change it. Also been pricing around for the work:

- in town - 2 cables available - $55 each, plus $90 labour (total $200 for the job)....can't get me in until at least mid next week

- ordering cables from Canberra VW place - $44 each, mail $7, total $95 for the cables

- so counting on me being able to borrow a 36mm socket and breaker bar from someone closeby, and getting the cables in.....what is the advice from the masses concerning being able to do it? It doesn't look like a huge job and I'd really like to do it myself to learn about the car.

So, advice? Easy job, hard? Thanks....


Jeza - October 19th, 2004 at 12:21 PM

Very easy job, easier in fact than replacing a gear cable on a mountain bike.

However like you say the hard part is removing the axle nut and the drum.

You may also find that only one cable has snapped, looking at where the cables mount on the handbrake lever will tell you which one. But best to check the other one if it's not broke, as it may not be far off.

The only advice I can think to suggest is that you may choose to check the condition of your rear brakes while they are apart, ie leaky wheel cylinders?, thickness of brake shoes etc...

Cheers
Jeremy


phantom - October 19th, 2004 at 12:30 PM

Funny that, just put new drum shoes and rear cylinders on the car 3 months ago for rego. So the rear brakes are good, just need to replace the cables. Yes, only one has gone but I'll do them both.

So the worst bit is removing the wheel nut for the drum?


vw54 - October 19th, 2004 at 01:18 PM

Replace both sides of them when you do the job


byronbus - October 19th, 2004 at 02:41 PM

Its easy unless something goes wrong... :)


KruizinKombi - October 19th, 2004 at 04:21 PM

As Dave said, replace both sides. The other one's not broken yet, but it soon will be.

It's worth investing in a 36mm socket and breaker bar, it will pay for itself in this job alone. It will also fit the gland nut on the flywheel. :)

Also, shop around. I'm fairly certain you can get a better price via mail order, and it will only take three days to your door...

[Edited on 19-10-2004 by KruizinKombi]


phantom - October 19th, 2004 at 04:37 PM

Actually priced a 36mm socket in town and the prices are too painful...hoping to borrow one. Anyone found some cheapies in the capitals? Might be worth me sourcing one next time I travel to the 'big smoke'.

Oh, and due to the hassles we have had with delivery here, I'm going to buy the local ones...an extra $15 but I get to know I have them for this weekend, rather than waiting, waiting....


vw54 - October 19th, 2004 at 05:46 PM

Buy one for yr self ... 36mm socket n breaker bar 3/4 inch if possible

mine is 30+ years old and still going strong used it heaps of times.... never be without it thats if yr playing with VWs...


Jeza - October 19th, 2004 at 06:44 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by vw54
mine is 30+ years old and still going strong used it heaps of times....


mmmm Dave so if you bought that when you were 15 that would still make you >45... ;)

I'd be careful about divulging any more info like that :D

I agree with the comment "look for a 3/4 inch bar and socket". My 1/2 inch doesn't quite cut it!!

CU
Jeremy


andrewh - October 19th, 2004 at 07:34 PM

If it's the type that has a plate that balances on the handbrake lever and is balanced by tension in the two cables, try to figure out a way of keeping tension on the non broken cable. When one of mine went, the other one started to creep into the drum and ended up getting mashed in between the drum and the brake shoes.


phantom - October 19th, 2004 at 09:45 PM

Great, mashed good cable...this just gets better.

Thanks to all for your help, working on another (cheaper) angle now, see how I go.

By the way, I've been told there is a way of replacing the handbrake cable WITHOUT removing the drum...I can't see how...but anyone know?

I hope to talk to the person this weekend to get the details....I think its duff info but we'll see....


andrewh - October 19th, 2004 at 10:00 PM

Mashed cables might happen if you keep driving it, and the non broken cable is no longer under tension and it gets pulled into the inside of the drum more than it's supposed to. It happened to me but then I am extremely unlucky.


Freddie Fender - October 19th, 2004 at 10:39 PM

I did one the other day here, cost $25 for the cable. A very easy repair. Have fun.


Jeza - October 20th, 2004 at 06:19 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by phantom
By the way, I've been told there is a way of replacing the handbrake cable WITHOUT removing the drum...I can't see how...but anyone know?


If you have the Type 3 drums you don't have to undo the axle nut as that holds the hub, and the drum slides over that. So you can take the drum off and replace the cable without removing the axle nut. But yours are still beetle ones so that won't help.

Cheers
Jeremy


Chewy - October 20th, 2004 at 11:14 AM

http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=ACC%2DC10%2D7040
Check these jobbies out for 36mm hex heads.

[Edited on 20-10-2004 by Chewy]


DoNkEy - October 20th, 2004 at 02:39 PM

could always jsut carry a brick or the yella pages :P


Che Castro - October 20th, 2004 at 06:51 PM

Yeah do it yourself, it would take you an hour tops.

for a beetle you have to take off the drum to unhook the cable off the brake lever.

It might even be an idea to replace the actual handbrake with an early pre-68 one as these have a different design where the cable attatches. There is no plate that balances, instead it is solidly attatched. This means that if one cable goes you still have the other side.


andrewh - October 20th, 2004 at 06:55 PM

While you've got it open it might be worth checking out the rear wheel cylinders and the brake shoes unless you know they're good. I found that my rear cylinders were leaking, so I replaced them while I had the drum off.


phantom - October 21st, 2004 at 09:29 AM

Sounds good, a friend has sourced some cheaper cables and they should be in for the weekend. Working out to loan a 36mm socket and bar so hopefully all will come together by Sunday!

Thanks to all for the advice.