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t4 heater boxes questions
barls - December 21st, 2004 at 03:10 PM

does anyone know if the heater boxs on a t4 2L are interchangeable from left to right? i just curious as im thinking of a new exhaust set up on my bug.
cheers all for your help in advance


mnsKmobi - December 21st, 2004 at 03:30 PM

I haven't looked that closely, but as they sell left and right ones the answer would have to be no!


barls - December 21st, 2004 at 03:39 PM

i know they are different shapes the left and right ones but what i want to know is can they be swapped so that the exhaust flange faces toward the front of the car instead of towards the rear.


PurpleT3 - December 21st, 2004 at 03:39 PM

No. They are asymmetrical as the exhaust inlets are way over to one side. The air inlets from the fan shroud are also slightly different (I think)


PurpleT3 - December 21st, 2004 at 03:42 PM

OK, possibly. But where do you plan on getting your fresh air supply from?


barls - December 21st, 2004 at 03:48 PM

im using shortened one on the bug with a custom cover so i only have to change the set up slightly. heres my current set up
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/barls80/DSC02288.jpg

[Edited on 21-12-2004 by barls]


Andy - December 21st, 2004 at 04:47 PM

Hey Barls, I know what your asking, but it won't work. With the offset in the pipes between the head and the heat exchanger part, if you spin it around and put it on the other side, the pipes will be too close to the case and push rod tubes.
Also the flange that bolts to the head has offset holes, but I suppose you could remove tham and swap them also?
The ones you have look cool though.
What's the fan housing, modified doghouse?
I have seen a similar setup also where the gut's of the generator are removed (as in just there for fan) and the type 4 alternator is still used.


barls - December 21st, 2004 at 04:54 PM

ill just have to fix that small problem then when i do it. the fan housing is a chopped 1302 sbug one. it was chopped to clear the maniflods. ill be going to a t1 55 amp alternator in the rebuild. the boxes look cool from a distance but the closer you look the dodginess shows


Andy - December 21st, 2004 at 07:06 PM

I hope it's getting a decent set of carbs? :rudolf


barls - December 21st, 2004 at 07:10 PM

no planning to stick with the twin solexs that are the stock ones.


barls - December 23rd, 2004 at 11:00 AM

bump any one else got an idea on this


Andy - December 23rd, 2004 at 06:10 PM

Modify bug ones to fit?
Make your own from scratch?
Ditch the soles's though :thumb


barls - December 31st, 2004 at 06:44 AM

im happy with them at the moment cause i dont have the money to get other ones. well see how i go with the boxes


barls - June 10th, 2005 at 09:11 AM

anyone else have an idea on this one or are you all waiting to see me do it and prove it can be done


nbturbo - June 10th, 2005 at 10:45 AM

Have a read of HYPOVW's post on his Oval drag car build up recently.He did just what you want to do with his custom engine pipes.


barls - June 10th, 2005 at 11:03 AM

yeah but ive got to keep the heater for my rego. but thats what i want to do basically but with heater boxes


nbturbo - June 10th, 2005 at 12:50 PM

I can't see from your pic how you are getting the hot air out and into the cabin.If you turn the pipes around-you can still fabricate up a surround like you have already done.I have the same issue with heat for mine.I have made up new engine pipes and have to make a chamber to collect the hot air-but I am using a Porsche fan and shroud,so have no outlet tubes for fresh air.Will probably use the heater assist fans from a Type4 Bus somehow.I sent some Type4 heater boxes to Mike Sharp for him to modify and he made the fresh air inlet pipes go back along side the boxes and finish not far from the outlet tubes.I was supposed to put some outlet pipes at the back of the Porsche shroud and run them out thru the front breast plate(where the throttle cable comes thru).I have fuel lines and throttle linkages across there which makes it too crowded.So will try the electric fans to supply fresh air and will be able to put it all underneath out of sight.


barls - June 10th, 2005 at 03:18 PM

ive got the electric fans under the rear seat as well as a different fanshroud ie a 36 hp with the fresh air tubes. im planning on doing the surrounds again. the fans work really well.
heres my heater fans
http://www.aussieveedubbers.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=29257 
here the modification of the fanshroud
http://www.aussieveedubbers.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=25214&page=3 


nbturbo - June 10th, 2005 at 05:49 PM

Those fans are exactly what I need.Never thought about anything like that-didn't know they even existed.Will be at the Boat shop in the morning on the prowl.Do you think they would move enough air to feel it at the demisters? Couldn't see your 36hp fan shroud on the links.If the fans are big enough-can use a draw thru system and recirculate cabin air thru custom made heater boxes.


barls - June 10th, 2005 at 06:07 PM

thats the idea. im only using the connections on the shroud cause i dont have anything else to connect the pipes to and actually had them just floating in the engine bay before the new shroud. trut me the fans are strong enough they move enough air to have the car so warm i can drive with the window down on the highway.


Special Air Service - June 10th, 2005 at 09:20 PM

Barls, on page 77 in May's Hot VW's there is a picture of an engine from a KG (type 1) that just uses another length of exhaust tubing that runs right along side the exhaust. I dont know how effective it would be but it looks simple as.
Cheers
SAS


barls - June 10th, 2005 at 10:42 PM

its just as well i havent read that one yet, i think ill stick to my heater boxes though ill fab up some new covers though making them better


nbturbo - June 11th, 2005 at 10:16 AM

Barls-just found one at the Boat place-cost $40 and he only had the one.In his catalogue for the specs it moves 138 cubic feet a minute at 4.5 amps. With one each side should be enough to lift your wig off-well done.


barls - June 11th, 2005 at 10:27 AM

yeah well i actually got the idea from hot vws as they did an article on the kit thats readily available over there. ive just got to wire in a 3 or 4 speed switch to control it