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HELP!! FUEL PUMP~
s-deez - February 26th, 2005 at 05:33 PM

ALRIGHT been fiddlin & hope some1 can help me out i have just been soughting out my fuel pump probs, (trying)

get it all back 2 geather, battery charged turn the key & I get 1 hell of a noise(like the 1 when u try 2 start a running car again) is my starter sticking~hellllllllllllllpppp thanks
Sime

[Edited on 26-2-2005 by s-deez]


andrewh - February 26th, 2005 at 05:44 PM

What were you doing to the fuel pump? What car and what type of fuel pump is it?


s-deez - February 26th, 2005 at 05:48 PM

64 beetle, I was just cleaning it because it was blocked~(another story)
I just tried it again it stated 2 turnover ok but then made made the noise~HeLL p~
Sime

[Edited on 26-2-2005 by s-deez]


akean1 - February 26th, 2005 at 06:27 PM

have you taken the starter out to check it? sounds like the little gog that throws out when power goes to the starter, then pulls back to get out of the way from the fly wheel might be stuck in the out possition.
might just need some lube and a fiddle?


whatnow - February 26th, 2005 at 07:13 PM

try turning the motor over a little then have another go, it could be worn teeth on the flywheel.
a way to check the health of things under there is, with the ignition on (normal running position), the wire to the coil off & THE CAR OUT OF GEAR (we don't want you dead) climb under and touch a screwdriver across the bolt on terminal and the push on terminal on the solenoid, if it throws out properly the prob could be from voltage drop in the connections between the battery/ignition switch/solenoid.
i also new people that used to have to get under thier cars every now and then to give the solenoid a light tap to unstick it.... usually at the most inopportune moment.

[Edited on 26-2-2005 by whatnow]


akean1 - February 26th, 2005 at 07:34 PM

if you need to do the tap on the solnoid bit, usualy means it is on its way out


s-deez - February 26th, 2005 at 08:55 PM

oK~ had a bit of play with u guys guidence problem seems ok~ so thanks for the help~ my big problem is still fuel flow~


68AutoBug - February 26th, 2005 at 09:51 PM

Has the car been changed over to `12 volts???

this probably means that the starter is still 6 volts...
they do work for some time but usually wear out the drive gear due to the high power - High Voltage....

You may just need another starter motor....

they should be easy to find..... every beetle had one....

best of luck

Lee

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68AutoBug - February 26th, 2005 at 09:55 PM

I suppose its a bit difficult to get the pump fixed when the engine doesn't start....

Pour a small amount of petrol down the throat of the carburetor and it should kick until it runs out...

or- look down the throat of the carburetor and You should see a piece of pipe sticking out slightly...
this is the fuel bowl overflow pipe....
see if You can pour some fuel into this pipe and fill the fuel bowl in the carburetor up... depending on what carburetor,
and how large the fuel bowl is- the engine will run for some time......
best of luck

Lee


s-deez - February 26th, 2005 at 10:35 PM

yea I posted this prob in the "big crash 05" so i never got any replys~

engine runs for a little when i put some fuel in the carb~

I cleaned all the jets etc & fuel squirts when I pump the accelorator~ the lines are clean(cause I got a mouthfull of fuel from the hoseline 2 fuel pump) thats where i think my prob is no suction.

I took the top part of fuel pump off & cleaned it had a lot of shitty surfacy rust bits in it~ unblocked hose line nozzels~

didnt help! do I have 2 dive deeper & clean more or do u just replace it? can I visualy tell if its shot?

thanks all~Sime


s-deez - February 27th, 2005 at 12:48 PM

I pulled the pump fully apart now cleaned it, put back 2 geather & still no suction going on~ any1 got some ideas~


aggri1 - February 28th, 2005 at 07:52 AM

Lotta people recommend electric fuel pumps. Be careful if you go that route though, pressure and all that.

Good luck dude. I can commiserate with you regarding fuel problems. Aargh!


Old Dubber - February 28th, 2005 at 02:10 PM

Sime,

I have to ask this first - are the lines to the pump installed the correct way?

Ok, next, the valves in the top body of the pump have fine springs under the fibre valves - these sometimes break. This makes the pump inoperable.

Quote:

I pulled the pump fully apart now cleaned it, put back 2 geather



How much did you pull apart?
Did you remove it from the engine?
Was the diaphragm in good condition?


pete wood - February 28th, 2005 at 02:32 PM

4 steps;

1/ go to VW shop
2/ buy new fuel pump (brazilian is fine)
3/ put fuel pump on
4/ start motor ;)

BTW, if the pump diaphram is holed the motor will be filling the oil up with fuel. Check your dipstick, if the oil is very thin and smells like fuel that's ya problem. If you do this first and this is it then go to step 1 as per above.
:)

[Edited on 28-2-2005 by pete wood]


pete wood - February 28th, 2005 at 02:33 PM

Oh BTW, if the oil is full of fuel you will need to change the oil too.


s-deez - February 28th, 2005 at 05:41 PM

man thanks 4 all your help~
I got it going for a little bit but had fuel pissn out the top of pump ! not sure if I put that last valve in the right way up~

But now that dam noise has came back louder tha ever & she wont even turn over~ VdUbZ~(& I am allready getting her a set of 5 spokes) when I turn the key(LOUD VIBRATION)
Think my starter is stuffed now thats all i need!! just b4 the big move~

Never pulled 1 of these suckers out~ fun times ahead any tips~ so that previous info may now come back in2 play~thanks
Sime~