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Door sag on my bug
StenGuns - February 27th, 2005 at 07:41 AM

OK.. I am refitting my drivers door. There is sufficient sag for the door to hit the bottom runner when closing..

When the door is closed, the profile, hinge positions etc look fine..

I have traced the problem to too much play in the top hinge.. Even when fully tightened there is a lot of play..

The problem appears to be the the top hinge plate (body side) has a cracked weld and is flexing under the load of the door etc..

How do I fix this?.. I have no welding gear.. What trade would I go to?

Thanks

[Edited on 26-2-2005 by StenGuns]


StenGuns - February 27th, 2005 at 07:44 AM

I guess I could purchase a little mig welder.. Last welding I did was as an apprentice bolier maker about 26 years ago.. Lasted about 6 weeks (too much dirt).. Boy, I loved the gas axe though!..


andrewh - February 27th, 2005 at 08:52 AM

I had this problem. I read up on this at http://www.vw-resource.com.  They suggest two solutions. Firstly shimming the bottom hinge to correct for the sag. The second solution is to jack up the corner of the door to try and bend it back into shape. I tried the second one and it seemed to work a little bit.


StenGuns - February 27th, 2005 at 09:00 AM

Thanks..
Not sure about the second idea but the first idea has given me some thought.. Instead of shimming the bottom hinge.. Maybe I could shave the top hinge by .5mm? That would pull it up nicely! Still would like to get the crack welded though..

Quote:
Originally posted by andrewh
I had this problem. I read up on this at http://www.vw-resource.com.  They suggest two solutions. Firstly shimming the bottom hinge to correct for the sag. The second solution is to jack up the corner of the door to try and bend it back into shape. I tried the second one and it seemed to work a little bit.


jnr356 - February 27th, 2005 at 10:50 AM

the crack will only get worse if it isn't repaired now,
you'll end up forever trying to componsate for it .
maybe you could hire a welder some do on site


68AutoBug - February 27th, 2005 at 10:56 AM

There must be an aussie vee dubber welder in Your area...
I get My Son to do My welding even though I have a welder..

MIG Welders are very good value...
You would probably find many uses for it...
You may have to get someone to show You how to set it up..
My Son has done welding courses but He lent His MIG Welder to someone who knew what He was doing and now it works better than it ever did before....

so sometimes it pays to lend things..... :):)

After You do the welding, You need to put some fish oil on the back section so it won't rust....
I'm guessing that You will paint the weld on this side....

Lee


StenGuns - February 27th, 2005 at 11:24 AM

All valuable help.. Thanks.. No time to go back to school to weld.. Rather pay someone how can do it (a better job) in a fraction of the time


StenGuns - February 27th, 2005 at 12:10 PM

Just waiting for some paint to dry so here is what I did..

First shot is the rust on the pillar around the bottom hinge.. I have blown it with rust converter and fish oil.. then clean filled and painted.. Hopefully it will hold.. This hinge bracket wasn't so bad.. just the rust holes warned me to do something now!


StenGuns - February 27th, 2005 at 12:16 PM

Then.. for the top hinge, I have shaved about .3mm off the hinge.. Also I couldn't wait to get it welded (this can still happen after blue slip) so I drilled a pilot hole through the door post and through the hinge bracket.. Counter sunk a little then drove a self tapping machine screw through both pieces.. It tightened it up beautifully.. Finally ground the screw head back to allow clearance..

Here's hoping


StenGuns - February 27th, 2005 at 12:34 PM

You little f%#king beauty.. It closes with the slightest push of a finger.. That feels so good I'm off to the club for a beer!!

[Edited on 27-2-2005 by StenGuns]

[Edited on 27-2-2005 by StenGuns]


StenGuns - February 27th, 2005 at 12:38 PM

Would you believe the rangers turned up!.. Someone complained about the noise!.. Thats two beers now!


StenGuns - February 27th, 2005 at 01:46 PM

OK.. Had one beer and decided to remove the passenger door.. Here are some shots of the bottom channel.. Good grief!! I can repair for a while but definately needs a new door!!


StenGuns - February 27th, 2005 at 07:06 PM

Cleaned and blown with rust converter


StenGuns - February 27th, 2005 at 07:07 PM

Filled and sanded


StenGuns - February 27th, 2005 at 07:07 PM

Primed


StenGuns - February 27th, 2005 at 07:08 PM

Painted and back on the bug


StenGuns - February 27th, 2005 at 07:09 PM

Both doors are swinging beautifuly.. I am rooted.. time for dinner and a bottle of red!!

Love a days work with good results!!


thabass - March 14th, 2005 at 06:51 PM

Which Rustconverter did you use?