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need help diagnosing a problem...
cray - March 8th, 2005 at 01:57 AM

first of all, keep in mind that while i have a good brain for troubleshooting problems, i'm still very much a novice when it comes to fixing/maintaining cars.

had a problem in the beetle ('68, 1916cc pobjoy engine) tonight. was driving home from work and was going through a bit of a hilly, twisty section (henry lawson drive near picnic point), so the engine was probably labouring a bit more than usual, when all of a sudden, in 4th gear, i start losing power. putting my foot on the accelerator results in a little bit of go, then nothing, so i switch back the third gear and accelerate, and the same thing happens, accelerates a little bit then dies off, then i let the car slow a bit (probably doing about 20-25mph at this point) and put it back into second and the engine stalled.

so i push the car into the only lit section of road (this was at around 1:30am) within a mile or so and call my mate garth who says he's on his way.

in the meantime, turning the key, the battery seems to have plenty of power, as it's definitely trying to start, and the engine would kick a little bit but not actually fire up. about 15 minutes later garth turns up and we check the fuel filter, which had fuel in it (i've had problems with the fuel line/gas tank in the car before, so this was the first thing i checked), checked the spark plug leads, etc, which were all fine.

while we were pretty sure it wasn't the battery, we thought we'd try to jump start it off of garth's car, which we attempted with the same result.

while thinking about it, garth suggested i try turning the engine over again and it started this time, so probably about 20-25 minutes after it died at first, then i drove home (about 5 minutes away) and he followed to make sure i got there, which i did.

now, my question is, it seems to me that this is likely to be an overheating problem, (i don't, as yet, have any temperature gauges in the car, but this will be rectified soon) would this sound correct?


vw54 - March 8th, 2005 at 06:23 AM

Sounds like fuel problems to me. Have you use silicon any where on the fuel tank. It tends to bead and go stringy and end up in the fuel line. this will cause temporay blockages.

Does the tank have the origional filter fitted on the stand pipe.

Another problem could be the fuel pump. Is it Brazilian or German. If from Brazil, find a good S/H german pump and fit that.

Also could be fuel vapour lock. Its the tank vented and clear can you blow through the vent tube.

Could be the brazilian pump over heating. carry a coke bottle of water with you... if it does it again feel if the pump is hot.... the cool it with a wet rag and water.

hope this helps.


aggri1 - March 8th, 2005 at 07:30 AM

Mmmm, sounds like in my bus when she's starving for fuel. Pump-go-then...nothing. I haven't found out what my problem is, but that thing about cooling your pump would be worth a shot - costs nothing right! If you want to be sure it's a fuel thing, take the top of the carby and check the fuel level when she's playing up. In mine, one carby (1800 TIV) was completely empty. Hence, only 2 working cylinders, low power. Yours'd be a bit different I guess, but same concept.

Who knows mate, good luck.
Aurel.


Bizarre - March 8th, 2005 at 07:42 AM

What makes you think it is hot??

Did it smell hot?? at 1.30 in the morning it shouldnt do that???

Start at the begining

Set vales - are they tight to start with??

Points - set them.
Is the coil and condenser old and breaking down under load. Nice blue spark or pissing yellow orange???

timing??? ok or way advanced and over heating the engine???

Has it happened since???

Was it pinging under load???

Tell us what you find :alien


cray - March 8th, 2005 at 03:07 PM

well we pulled everything apart today and it looks like the needle in the carby was sticking. it happened again just as i pulled in to my dad's place this morning, which was good timing if nothing else.


vw54 - March 8th, 2005 at 05:20 PM

I knew it would be a fuel problem.


cray - March 8th, 2005 at 05:51 PM

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Originally posted by vw54
I knew it would be a fuel problem.


thanks for your help dave, and everyone else :)


Bizarre - March 8th, 2005 at 07:37 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by cray
well we pulled everything apart today and it looks like the needle in the carby was sticking. it happened again just as i pulled in to my dad's place this morning, which was good timing if nothing else.


yep

i seem to have read some where that was word for word what Dave suggested :duh



:D :kiss


cray - March 8th, 2005 at 09:36 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Bizarre
Quote:
Originally posted by cray
well we pulled everything apart today and it looks like the needle in the carby was sticking. it happened again just as i pulled in to my dad's place this morning, which was good timing if nothing else.


yep

i seem to have read some where that was word for word what Dave suggested :duh



:D :kiss


dunno about word for word, or even close to word for word, however he was still right, as he usually is.;)