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Deutsch or Brazilian master cylinder?

oval TOFU - May 5th, 2005 at 08:09 PM

Should I get a master cylinder manufactured in the Fatherland or Partyland? The price difference is about $100. I've had Brazilian brake hoses before and you could see the quality difference.

I've been told by a few VW shops that they've had no troubles with the Brazilian masters too...

so, what should I buy for my 54?

Robo - May 5th, 2005 at 08:12 PM

I wouldn't touch Brazilian. I used to get their wheel cylinders, but I never got the same life out of them, as I did with German. The German one's last heaps longer.
Rob...

johny rotten - May 5th, 2005 at 08:15 PM

Brazil Hydraulic brake stuff is fine /Varga..
but the brazil brake drums are crap

fetid_swamp - May 5th, 2005 at 08:49 PM

so its like $70 for brazil vs $170 for german. go german/quality for these essential items. ive used a mix of mehico & brazil wheel cyl & master cyl (but with good aussie flex & solid lines). i am ru-ing the folly of my tight arse tuesday ways....

~air fooled~ - May 6th, 2005 at 01:05 PM

just save the hassle and get it rekitted....

oval TOFU - May 6th, 2005 at 01:13 PM

rekitted?

MikeM - May 6th, 2005 at 01:27 PM

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Originally posted by oval TOFU
rekitted?

Take your current master to a Brake Place and get the to "Kit" it. This usually means putting new seals etc in it but if its rusty they will bore it and use a stainless liner. This is a good thing as it will probably last forever with a stainless liner.

57kombi - May 6th, 2005 at 03:07 PM

I have just bought 6 brake cylinders from PBR in Adelaide, they are made in spain but they re-sleeve them with stainless bits and they are great. Also they had them in stock for an early split whose brakes were differant after 63.

Cheers
Dave

oval TOFU - May 6th, 2005 at 10:43 PM

The current one I have in my 54 is a Varga branded one from Brasil (isn't the Varga Girl Zippo's mascot icon?.. anyways...) "rekitted"- yeh, I presumed it meant resleeving it etc. The quote i got for resleeving it was nearly the same as a new german master, so, I've listened to the tribe and ordered a german ATE master.. just one less thing to worry about in the long run I suppose. I compared a brazilian brake hose to a german one: when held out horizontaly by one end, the brazilian hose would droop way past 45 degrees from the horizontal plane. The german one however, had considerably less flex than this. hmmmm you pay for what you get me thinks....

How much did you pay Dave?

57kombi - May 7th, 2005 at 05:05 PM

$53 each cylinder. with a 2 year guarantee.
Early kombis have 2 in each front wheel so the whole lot cost just over $300.
4 for the front and 2 for the back(the back are type 3 ones)

Cheers
Dave

oval TOFU - May 7th, 2005 at 09:10 PM

Oh, I thought you were talking about master cylinders - I had my wheel cylinders resleeved for about $35 each - pretty good price I thought. Warranty never goes astray...

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Originally posted by 57kombi
$53 each cylinder. with a 2 year guarantee.
Early kombis have 2 in each front wheel so the whole lot cost just over $300.
4 for the front and 2 for the back(the back are type 3 ones)

Cheers
Dave

jakjones - May 8th, 2005 at 09:15 AM

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gees you got gouged :P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P

57kombi - May 8th, 2005 at 09:55 AM

tosser

oval TOFU - May 9th, 2005 at 05:09 PM

hmmm

BajaChris - May 9th, 2005 at 06:53 PM

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Originally posted by MikeM

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Originally posted by oval TOFU
rekitted?

Just make sure that the place doing the re-sleaving knows what they are doing. I've seen more than a few of these sleaved master cyl.s leak between the liner and the original bore.

oval TOFU - May 11th, 2005 at 10:02 AM

will do. This german one shouldn't give me any trouble - I've used the same brand (ATE) of brake hoses and they were really good quality... presuming the standard crosses all products... fingers crossed