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Climbing hills in a Type 3.....
jo_tas - June 22nd, 2005 at 11:12 PM

Hey all
Just a quick question... I have a late type 3 (stock) and theres a big hill just out of town that the highway i take home goes up... speed limit it 80km/h
My question is, how fast can the Type 3 happily pull up the hill in 3rd? (too steep for 4th)
It'll go up at 50mph, but i worry that its not good to rev the engine like that for that long.... or is it actually not revving that hard?
Theres quite a few hills like that around my place, and i've always wondered which speed/rpm the aircooled motor is happiest to climb.

Thanks!


Stanley - June 23rd, 2005 at 06:49 AM

Bit hard to say...but it's better to use a few revs in 3rd than to labour it in 4th...
Or you could just get a big runup.


aggri1 - June 23rd, 2005 at 08:16 AM

I don't know what the gear ratios/final drive are like in the type 3's. I don't think I'd drive my 1800 kombi at 80km/h in third though, but busses might have lower ratios. 80km/h in third would be about 4000rpm I think in my bus (she does about 3000 at 60km/h).

Depends a lot on your engine too doesn't it...

Cheers, Aurel.


VWCOOL - June 23rd, 2005 at 09:20 AM

80 in third... no worries! NEVER labour it in fourth. NEVER use 4th below 70km/h in ANY air-cooled VWs, stock or modified.


Andy - June 23rd, 2005 at 11:27 AM

I'd agree with kafer/VWcool, don't let them labour.
I only have auto's (in type 3's) and factory change point 2nd-3rd (top in auto) is 50mph when you put your foot down. No idea what revs that is though.
In general I keep all my VW's under 4000rpm, so see where that gets you in the type 3.
My L bug sits happily at 80 in third on hills, and I think the gearing is close to type 3's.


jo_tas - June 23rd, 2005 at 01:31 PM

Ok thanks... about not going below 70km/h in 4th, do you mean on hills? or even on the flat?
Becuase i often cruise along in 4th in 60km/h (40-45mph) zones when its flat, and it doesn't feel like it labouring..


VWCOOL - June 23rd, 2005 at 02:49 PM

I mean on the flat. 3rd gear for around town for me... then you don't have to change down for hills!


bus914 - June 23rd, 2005 at 05:42 PM

80 in 3rd (1.32, final drive 4.125 as per S.P. manual for late type 3) with stock? 165/75/15 tyres gives about 3700rpm. And 2500rpm in 4th (0.89)


76camper - June 23rd, 2005 at 06:05 PM

If your really worried about revs, drop down to third and back off a bit until your comfortable! Its a 30 yr old car, whats the rush? Going a bit slower up one hill wont cost u 10 mins, more like 1 min max depending on hill.