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Rattley Tappets?
jo_tas - December 5th, 2005 at 04:04 PM

Hi all

I did my tappets a week or so ago (at .006 intake .007 on exhuast)

This seems to have made the tappets quite loud, i can hear them tapping away quite loudly from inside the car at idle..

Is this ok? Is it going to do any damage?
It seems to be running OK..


jo_tas - December 5th, 2005 at 04:04 PM

Oh, and yes i double checked them a few days later...


PurpleT3 - December 5th, 2005 at 04:16 PM

Lets get the obvious out of the way first. Did you set the tappets with the engine stone cold?

Noisy tappets are unlikely to do damage as it generally means they are loose. Tight tappets will do damage. Are they noisy when hot or only when cold?


Menangler - December 5th, 2005 at 04:26 PM

I always set mine to 004, inlet and exhaust, and check them every 3000 miles. nice and quiet.


jo_tas - December 5th, 2005 at 08:58 PM

yes i did them when the engine was cold, hadn't started the engine since the day before.

They seem to rattle all the time.

Isn't .004 a bit tight?


Anthiron - December 5th, 2005 at 09:48 PM

.004 was recomended by VW in the early years and would give u minute advantage but was wearing valves away earlier. so then they switched to .006 i was under the impression that it was .006 for both e4xhaust and inlet


shiftyvw - December 5th, 2005 at 10:01 PM

check yout tappet screws are still ok, and not worn out where they touch the valve, they are hard to feel a proper gap and adjust when they are badly worn.


jo_tas - December 6th, 2005 at 08:55 AM

Thanks..

It seems everyone has their own opinion of what the tappets should be set at... *Sigh*


MickH - December 6th, 2005 at 08:58 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Anthiron
.004 was recomended by VW in the early years and would give u minute advantage but was wearing valves away earlier. so then they switched to .006 i was under the impression that it was .006 for both e4xhaust and inlet


Both inlet and exhaust should be set to .006:thumb.


ancientbugger - December 6th, 2005 at 06:15 PM

Remember though "A tappy tappet is a happy tappet!".............Told to me years ago, mind you I would replace "happy" with "bloody annoying" LOL


shiftyvw - December 6th, 2005 at 06:42 PM

Just a thought, your motor is standard or hotted up? if you have steel pushrods in there they need to be set very tight when cold, or they will rattle a lot when the motor warms up.


jo_tas - December 6th, 2005 at 07:45 PM

Yes, its a stock motor..

And noisy tappets are annoying.. even if it is good for the engine... it sounds terrible :cussing

I might re-do them at .006 for all


Grey 57 - December 6th, 2005 at 10:04 PM

.006 all round is the best compromise. Pretty sure that VW went to .004 for a few years then back to .006 because of clearance issues when hot caused burned valves at .004. The valve stems and the push rods all grow when the motor is hot. Personally I have always set mine to .006. Some will aways rattle a little bit when hot probably due to ever so slight variations in the gap depending on how tired you are when doing the last ones, how easy it is to get to etc. How are doing the adjustment. The remember where the right place is when tightening down the adjuster lock nut method or the trap the feeler guage under the adjuster and back off a tiny bit before you lock it down method??


tonyktm - December 7th, 2005 at 02:14 AM

the difference in the setting is dictated by the boss that supports the rocker shaft assemby. late model ones have a square boss and early have round. late should be set to 4 thou


VWCOOL - December 7th, 2005 at 09:14 AM

Inches or millimeters


jo_tas - December 7th, 2005 at 01:59 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by tonyktm
the difference in the setting is dictated by the boss that supports the rocker shaft assemby. late model ones have a square boss and early have round. late should be set to 4 thou


Well thats interesting... still not sure if i'd want to set them at .004 though... can't afford new valves if it stuffs them.

I tighten the lock nut while holding the screwdriver in the screw to make sure it doesn't move... which it doesn't.


67_on_its_guts - December 8th, 2005 at 04:40 PM

Jo

Check out this article about tappet adjustment

http://vwtrendsweb.com/tech/0106vwt_valve/ 

Page 101 of my "Idiot Book, about keeping Volkswagens Alive" reckons .006" for both intake and exhaust valves.........something about preventing burned valves.

Just my two bobs worth

Cheers

Rob:thumb


jo_tas - December 8th, 2005 at 09:12 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 67_on_its_guts
Jo

Check out this article about tappet adjustment

http://vwtrendsweb.com/tech/0106vwt_valve/ 

Page 101 of my "Idiot Book, about keeping Volkswagens Alive" reckons .006" for both intake and exhaust valves.........something about preventing burned valves.

Just my two bobs worth

Cheers

Rob:thumb


Thanks, i have the john muir book...great read! :kiss