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replacing rear window on a '76 beetle
Peter Leonard - January 19th, 2006 at 01:00 AM

have rubber, have glass... it's in the wrecked beetle at the moment, but i figured i could just cut it out to get it free, and use the nozzle from a silicone tube to lay some cord round the new rubber and pull it in place..
looks easy when you type it ;)


any tips? warnings? places to get cheap new front windscreens?:thumb


vw54 - January 19th, 2006 at 06:41 AM

Center the join in the rubber to the center of the glass

It looks UGLY when the join is out of wack.... make it in the center at the top as well


B a little carefull with the front screen especially if its laminated


Peter Leonard - January 19th, 2006 at 07:14 AM

cheers, good tip.
so maybe a pro for the front screen. last front screen I got cost me $220 about five years ago, and it got angle grinder spark chips on it the day after installation, followed by a massive crack three weeks later courtesy of a caravan on the Oodnadatta track. that was painful. am I going back to windscreens o brien for the next one, or is there a secret better place?
I've heard the rear screen is pretty tough, can you just kick it out?


vw54 - January 19th, 2006 at 07:33 AM

yes lay on yr back seat and push out with yr feet. have some one catch it


helbus - January 19th, 2006 at 09:59 AM

In the paint and body section, there are two articles that cover removal and fitting of windows to a beetle. With pictures and step by step guide.

The "painting of a beetle - part I" has removal
and "painting of a beetle - part II" has refitting


DIY-DUB - January 19th, 2006 at 10:03 AM

thin scerwdriver in a corner then a larger one, both from outside, leaver out on one side then remove, piece of piss, no damage, and only need 1 person! i made a "glass removal" thread in teck talk i think, or FAQ not sure, its seriously easy my way


VWCOOL - January 19th, 2006 at 11:12 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Peter Leonard
have rubber, have glass... it's in the wrecked beetle at the moment, but i figured i could just cut it out to get it free, and use the nozzle from a silicone tube to lay some cord round the new rubber and pull it in place..
looks easy when you type it ;)


any tips? warnings? places to get cheap new front windscreens?:thumb


I think I understand what you've typed... and yes, that's how I've done it on all my car builds... A bit of Armour All used as rubber lube helps, too


Peter Leonard - January 19th, 2006 at 05:31 PM

Thanks ppl.
Cool. strangely, helbus, your 'painting of a beetle' threads didn't show up in my search :alien

I will sqwiz..
I will armorall...
I will consider screwdrivers (but have doubts about such things as cracks...)

I will see how things go tomorrow (assuming rain doesn't screw the whole job up completely)

no wisdom regarding the purchase of new front windscreens?


barls - January 19th, 2006 at 05:40 PM

the last one i got was from obriens and they did a good job but then again my old man organised it


76camper - January 19th, 2006 at 09:16 PM

put my windscreen in. Do a few practise runs without glue (ask me how i know). And use something thicker than string or cord. I ended up using something bout 10mm diameter alot easier.

good luck


Peter Leonard - January 20th, 2006 at 02:14 AM

what about nylon-cored clothesline? it's about 5+mm thick. I'm guessing that something too thick will just make it harder to locate the screen centrally a la the 'helbus' method. i might pass on the glue/mastic/silicon thing altogether, and rely on the newness of the rubber to seal for me....

anyone got a $$figure on the front windscreen? *sits down, puts on stackhat, and anchors self to something unlikely to tip over*
might hit the yellow pages too. :crazy::borg:


vw54 - January 20th, 2006 at 06:07 AM

Use a bit of blind cord bout 4 or 5 mm thick

Fitting a front screen depends on how much practice you have had. Its easy if you have done before

Vintage at Campsie 9789-1777 can supply and fit the front screen for you if yr not game to do the job


helbus - January 20th, 2006 at 08:07 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Peter Leonard
Thanks ppl.
Cool. strangely, helbus, your 'painting of a beetle' threads didn't show up in my search

no wisdom regarding the purchase of new front windscreens?


The painting of a beetle threads are topped/ sticky, maybe that is why? Hmmm dunno there?

I got new front screen supply only for $110 from a windscreen place.

I use lawn mower pull start cord for my screens as it is good thickness, non stretch, durable. I do so many screens I need it to last. Nothing worse than snapping while putting in.

Beetle is easy as the rubber and screen are small. It is when doing Customline or Chev it is a bit heavy duty.


56astro - January 20th, 2006 at 08:12 AM

When we fitted my front and rear glass we covered the rubber with a concentrated mix of warm water and dishwashing detergent. It seemed to help the rubber slip over the metal.


VWCOOL - January 20th, 2006 at 08:30 AM

EEEK! Dishwashing detergent usually has salt in it. Salt = Rust


56astro - January 20th, 2006 at 08:32 AM

OOOHH

:cry


Peter Leonard - January 20th, 2006 at 10:09 AM

For $110 I'll have a 'crack' at it myself.. assuming i can find a place in sydney that does it for that kind of money. WOB quoted $261 suppply and fit.

I'm heading off to VVDS on other errands in a bit, I'll ask about their prices while I'm there :D


helbus - January 20th, 2006 at 11:11 AM

You should not have to pay any more than $185 to supply & fit.

If you supply new rubber and take old one out, no more than $165. I have to be honest here, it does not take any more than 20mins to put one in. That is including rubber on, aluminium trim in etc. If all goes really easy and you are right on top of it, I have seen screens go in and be cleaned up in ten minutes.

I suppose I have been lucky and never broken one putting it in, and they would be factoring in breakage into their price, but really if careful no more than 2% I would imagine as a failure rate.

Of all screens to do as a first, this will be right up at the top of the list as easiest.


Peter Leonard - January 20th, 2006 at 03:55 PM

welll
i chickened out, as the guy there said he'd do for 60 bucks on the spot, with mastic and removal and no chance of me smashing it either in transit or during installation. the old one was cracked also, so i figured rather than slicing and dicing myself kicking it out... meh. 170 bucks later, i can see clearly now, and the rain has gone.:thumb
campsie auto glass, i'd recommend them, they're fast, courteous and friendly.
unfortunately this still leaves me with the rear window to replace, which IS A DIFFERENT SIZE on the superbug. (thanks craig for warning me of this possibility before i found myself looking at a100mm gap above the window) so i can't use my old tinted one :sniffle:. but i can still replace the cracked up rubber.
which will have to wait for another day.
isn't this exciting.

:smirk:


helbus - January 20th, 2006 at 05:31 PM

$170 is a good price. You can see that sounds a lot better than $261.

Well done :thumb


Peter Leonard - January 20th, 2006 at 11:50 PM

:beer

now to get the rest of it sorted....