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ADRs and seats. need help....
bajachris88 - April 26th, 2006 at 10:22 PM

hey fellas, how u all doing?

I got a set of highback torana seats from the 67 baja, and they are on vw frames down the bottom.

I got halfback seats in my 67, original vw. I assume...

They need reupholstering, both. the highbacks give the head comfort and prevent some spinal injuries compared to halfbacks. But am i able to put the torana seats on my bug without having engineering approval?

I think they are on vw frames. They were going on the vw rails in the 67. (the rails and frames looked exactly like the vw ones as my 69)

Will get pics, when i can. Just like to hear if you guys had any pointers and suggestions in mind. IF i need engineering approval, will just go later vw seats.. in time.


barls - April 26th, 2006 at 10:29 PM

how are they mounted on the bases? even if they are on the stock base they may need an engineers if they arent the stock seats for that model


VWCOOL - April 27th, 2006 at 08:28 AM

Yeah, if they aren't VW seats for that year and model they (to the letter of the law) must be engineer approved


last celtic warrior - April 27th, 2006 at 11:01 AM

As far as I'm aware, as long as the replacement seat meats ADRs for the year of the car or later (none for that model) and it flips forward with passenger seat flippable from the back, and the seat is mounted to the original mountings and any bolts used are grade 8, then you're fine.

I removed the rails from the floor of my buggy and grafted Volvo rails onto Celica seats. to be bolted through the floor. The only thing that was checked fully was that I'd used 75x50mm washers on the bolts and that the bolts were grade 8.

Keep in mind, you're only maintaining the safety and compliance of your car. Call it a modification and they will balk.


bajachris88 - April 27th, 2006 at 02:21 PM

thanks guys.

Yeah, i would imagine a set of highbacks would be safer than low backs.
Although i don't mind the classic style, but ruffing it offroad, rough driving, heavy braking, drifting, all that fun stuff requires some good support on your body, otherwise chances are your top half would be thrown around pretty roughly, and i tend to get pitched nerves in the spine from pulled muscles etc. Not sure if its good for the scoliosis too. Anywho.

I personally would find it annoying driving halfback seats for long periods of time too.

But yeah, thanks heaps guys, great to have some mentors out there to rely on. I really do appreciate the help.
Cheers fellas.


bajachris88 - April 27th, 2006 at 02:24 PM

Nick (anthiron), i think it was him, he said that my car was pre ADRs having been a 1969 model. Does that point mean i can get it easier when it comes to seat selection?


VWCOOL - April 27th, 2006 at 02:56 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by last celtic warrior
As far as I'm aware, as long as the replacement seat meats ADRs for the year of the car or later (none for that model) and it flips forward with passenger seat flippable from the back, and the seat is mounted to the original mountings and any bolts used are grade 8, then you're fine....


... as long as you have an engineers cert!

And pre-ADR cars must be engineered too. The engineers report is evidence of equivalence or upgrading of original safety specifications of the car, not just to ADRs for your car's year model... IYKWIM


helbus - April 27th, 2006 at 03:11 PM

When we built the limo, the suspension, steering, brakes, wheels, ground clearance, tyres, glass, seats and seatbelts were all scrutinised to make sure they complied with requirements to pass engineering.


helbus - April 27th, 2006 at 03:12 PM

Oh and that was a 1964 year vehicle by the way.


bajachris88 - April 27th, 2006 at 03:29 PM

how much did you guys pay out for an engineer cert?


helbus - April 27th, 2006 at 03:37 PM

In Vic it was well over a grand for the VASS (Vehicle Assessment Sinnatory Scheme) certificate required. You would pay a lot less in QLD for your mod plate.


Anthiron - April 27th, 2006 at 04:03 PM

your car is pre ADR's but u still need to get the enginners approval chris.