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Spellbound - January 20th, 2007 at 11:30 PM

Hey Guys,

Im having a problem removing the castle nuts off the rear drum assembly on my Bug. This area has a fairly decent dirt build up and since cleaning it seems to me that these nuts havn't been removed for quite some time.

Any tricks to getting these off, and what tool do you use??


xornge666x - January 21st, 2007 at 03:03 AM

3/4 drive 36mm socket, and breaker bar with 2m of pipe on the end of it for leverage.
Ususally a rattle gun (good one) will get them off.
They are tightened to 250ftlb or more..


66deluxe - January 21st, 2007 at 06:48 AM

And have someone have their foot on the brake also.


Spellbound - January 21st, 2007 at 08:19 AM

Damn!

So the fact that I have the body off the pan and very little weight to keep the pan still won't help?


BiX - January 21st, 2007 at 11:27 AM

try getting a length of angle, drilling 2 holes in it to match 2 of the wheel studs. Bolt it to the drum and allow it to rest againts the ground to counter any lverage on the nut. Soak the nut with wd40 ro similar. also while using the breaker bar, hit the nut/socket with a hammer.


Spellbound - January 21st, 2007 at 04:46 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by BiX
try getting a length of angle, drilling 2 holes in it to match 2 of the wheel studs. Bolt it to the drum and allow it to rest againts the ground to counter any lverage on the nut. Soak the nut with wd40 ro similar. also while using the breaker bar, hit the nut/socket with a hammer.


Ok sounds good...I'll try that.

Cheers


greedy53 - January 21st, 2007 at 07:15 PM

try hireing a electric rattel gun bloody great makes life easy


Spellbound - January 21st, 2007 at 07:18 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by greedy53
try hireing a electric rattel gun bloody great makes life easy


reckon it'll get them off??


Sulla - January 21st, 2007 at 07:43 PM

A large adjustable wrench with a couple of feet of 2 inch steel pipe over the end will enable you to stand on the pipe and apply your own weight! Works for me and I only weigh 90 kg!!


Spellbound - January 21st, 2007 at 07:45 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Sulla
A large adjustable wrench with a couple of feet of 2 inch steel pipe over the end will enable you to stand on the pipe and apply your own weight! Works for me and I only weigh 90 kg!!


I tried somethiing similar...but with the limited weight in the pan...it rolled away :D


Sulla - January 21st, 2007 at 08:15 PM

Put some bricks on either side of each wheel!

:cussing


Joel - January 21st, 2007 at 08:43 PM

just be real carefull if they are so tight u can barely move them.
when i first got my Lbug both nuts were really tight and after half a can off camels piss and lots of heat i got them off but they were obviously over tightened too buggery cos both sides stripped the thread off the axles and out of both nuts
luckily its IRS and i had some spares drive shafts but on a swinger would have meant engine and gearbox removal to fix

in that situation i would have been better off splitting the nuts off with a chisel and just replacing them instead of doin that anyway as well as fitting new drive shafts
would have saved alot of time and thrown tools/tantrums LOL

-Joel


Grey 57 - January 21st, 2007 at 09:20 PM

Cold chisel and a hammer would be the go in this case. With out the wieght on the wheel its going to be a hard task getting these free. Just split the nuts between the castelations.
Use eye protection.


Spellbound - January 21st, 2007 at 09:24 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Grey 57
Cold chisel and a hammer would be the go in this case. With out the wieght on the wheel its going to be a hard task getting these free. Just split the nuts between the castelations.
Use eye protection.


You make it sound easy......


xornge666x - January 22nd, 2007 at 12:41 AM

i use one of these, bought in the US years ago, but I think you can get one locally now.
loosens from or tightens to 270ftlb with a 3/8 ratchet and 30ftlb of force.
these are awesome. also work on the flywheel gland nut.
Maybe you could borrow one from someone?
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o143/xornge666x/tmeister.jpg


Spellbound - January 22nd, 2007 at 07:16 AM

Whats it called?


xornge666x - January 22nd, 2007 at 08:41 AM

torquemeister I think. Few different names, but they are all the same. It was $40US when I got mine.
I may have to go and buy another as im doing a job here on a guys ghia, and all my tools are back in Melbourne. I dont think Ill get his drums off without it.
I guess ill have one for sale when I come home!


1500S - January 22nd, 2007 at 08:03 PM

>after half a can off camels piss<

Sounds like XXXX. Did you drink it or put it on the stubborn nut!!??

DH



[ Edited on 22/1/2007 by 1500S ]


ratty 63 - January 22nd, 2007 at 10:45 PM

I have used a rattle gun on any of the axle nuts that I have undone recently (with the gearbox either in or out of the car) and it worked fine.

Please be careful if you choose to use the breaker bar and extension pipe and only use good quality sockets - I have seen a number of sockets break due to the load - one actually shattered taking a chunk out of my Dads face - not nice.

R :)

[ Edited on 22-1-2007 by ratty 63 ]


Spellbound - January 22nd, 2007 at 11:46 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by ratty 63
I have used a rattle gun on any of the axle nuts that I have undone recently (with the gearbox either in or out of the car) and it worked fine.

Please be careful if you choose to use the breaker bar and extension pipe and only use good quality sockets - I have seen a number of sockets break due to the load - one actually shattered taking a chunk out of my Dads face - not nice.

R :)


[ Edited on 22-1-2007 by ratty 63 ]


Cheers for the advice mate. I'll look at the options you guys have thrown up and try a few things before taking the Cold chisel option :P


[ Edited on 22-1-2007 by Spellbound ]