cheers

just as good as anywhere else!

They were widely used back in those swing axle days...

supposed to be the best....

some are adjustable too....

Lee

ok, and how's the ride? do they "rattle your fillings out"?

I have them on my RA STI

same as they are on an IRS axle

The ride is good, they don't rattle out fillings - well, I don't think so - but it is firmer than standard. I only have them on the rear (IRS); the ones I tried were too firm for on-road use on the front for my needs


[ Edited on 2-2-2007 by VWCOOL ]

KW make a similar coilover set up thats adjustable . Harsh on the track and compliant on the street . Spring rates can also be changed on coilovers if the ride is too harsh / soft . You do have to pay for it though . I guess it just depends on how important you want the suspension to be

thanks vwcool, that's what i was after. i think i'll go the konis all round as i don't know enugh about suspensions to restore good balance after sticking drastically different gear on the front and rear. and this car is 99.999% for road use.




is there any difference between ball joint beetle front and type 3 front shocks?

[ Edited on 2-2-2007 by bus914 ]

yes - the ball-joint beetles have an axial/vertical mount (ie the top of the shock goes up through the top mount on the beam, like a strut) while the Type 3/early Beetles/Kombis have a bolt that goes cross-ways/horizontal through a sleeve attached to the shock

FWIW, I fitted Cofap Gas dampers to my car when I first built it in 1990 and had a real good run with them. Good, cheap, street shock. Although replaced with Billies, I only turfed them about a month ago after one went soft on another of my cars - after about 200,000km!!

[ Edited on 2-2-2007 by VWCOOL ]

200,000 ( ! )

fitted 6 vw motors as well I bet , Seagull

any one running them on k&l with swing axle?

ok, so if the ball joint front shocks don't have the mounting eye, is it better to get link pin front shocks or rear shocks for the front?

just a question, what would the handling benifits be of doing this, would it make it have less body roll? and would it raise the car because they are harder? and would it make it skip around the road because they are too hard. also how much for a set :P

I used to run Bilstein's all round on my 76 bug, and it handled really well with the stock front swaybar. But the ride was quite harsh, especially on the front. I changed the front to Koni adjustable's and the ride improved but the car tended to understear, so instead of making the shocks harder I fitted a 20mm swaybar to the front and now the car steers and handles similar to before but with a more compliant ride. The swaybar didn't make the ride noticabally harder it just helped to keep the car on track.
The thing about gas shocks is that most don't have any rebound damping, their all about compression, in other words, you hit a bump and the gas shock resists compressing but as it comes off the bump there's no resistance to rebound or extension. Whereas an oil filled shock like a Koni has both compression and rebound damping. In my opinion this makes Koni a better choice.
Also, the other thing I noticed was that the Bilstiens actually made the front of the car sit about 15mm higher.