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popping carbies
phil - May 21st, 2007 at 04:24 PM

hey fellas!
can anyone help me with this ?
for some time now my car has been backfiring through the carbies when cold....runs great when warmed up.
it's a 1640 t1 engine with dual kadron setup and cheapie extractor exhaust, 009 dist.and compufire module, otherwise standard...carbies seem balanced with throttle plates? equal and mixture screws turned in till stumble then back 1/4 - 1/2 turn.
any ideas?


56astro - May 21st, 2007 at 05:03 PM

Have you tried to do a search?

There are heaps of threads about "popping" through carbies.


Bizarre - May 21st, 2007 at 05:32 PM

Read hear

http://www.lowbugget.com/main_page.html 

basically -

Popping out the top of carb:
Incorrect Jetting.
Clogged idle jet.
The distributor is not advancing correctly
incorrect accelerator fuel squirt adjustment.
Small main jet.
To big of venturies.
Check your linkage, make it open the carbs not close or hold them open.
Is the timing correct? I do not recommend setting your timing at idle or static.
This is just for getting it to start and should be set afterwards with a timing gun set at full
advance.

My guess is to lean as it goes away when warm


Oasis - May 21st, 2007 at 05:35 PM

Could be the linkage. When the engine "grows" when it gets hot the linkage comes good which might explain what it does only when it's cold, especially with Kads. my 2c


ian.mezz - May 21st, 2007 at 08:10 PM

I had a bug do that and i found that i had a few inlet tappets that needed adjusting:o


phil - May 21st, 2007 at 09:48 PM

thanks all.
did a search....nothing new there.
i will double check for air leaks, then
i guess i will richen mixture a little and see what happens...then maybe advance? the timing a little.
met a mechanic at work a couple of weeks ago who believes the quality of fuel is responsible...says FI systems can cope with variable fuel better than carb...says quality of fuel has been poor for a couple of years?


ancientbugger - May 21st, 2007 at 10:04 PM

I'd guess your choke (if you have one) isn't working properly. In colder temperatures the cooler air would be more dense and so you'll be effectively running lean but as the engine warms up so would the air going into the engine.


Craig Torrens - May 21st, 2007 at 10:04 PM

your linkage is out, you just need to adjust.


Craig Torrens - May 21st, 2007 at 10:06 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Bizarre

My guess is to lean as it goes away when warm


How did you come up with this one ? :jesus


phil - May 21st, 2007 at 10:13 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Craig Torrens
Quote:
Originally posted by Bizarre

My guess is to lean as it goes away when warm


How did you come up with this one ? :jesus


i thought this sounded ok?
no choke on kadron/solex kits, therefore a bit lean when cold..or is it an absence of enriched mixture when cold? therfore behaves as though lean until warmed up


phil - May 21st, 2007 at 10:16 PM

yeah..thanks Craig..i thought i had linkages right but on reflection i have been tricked by them before


Bizarre - May 21st, 2007 at 10:25 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Craig Torrens

How did you come up with this one ? :jesus


VERY common sympton on Webers to "snap" out the top of the carb when idling on a cold morning if the idle jet is "just" lean.

Dont worry craig - one day you will understand. :alien

[ Edited on 21-5-2007 by Bizarre ]


plebs - May 22nd, 2007 at 12:28 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by phil
thanks all.
did a search....nothing new there.
i will double check for air leaks, then
i guess i will richen mixture a little and see what happens...then maybe advance? the timing a little.
met a mechanic at work a couple of weeks ago who believes the quality of fuel is responsible...says FI systems can cope with variable fuel better than carb...says quality of fuel has been poor for a couple of years?



I had this just recently, bad fuel from a dodgy cheap station, I had to drain the tank and run it dry then refill with brand name PULP and all was well.


Craig Torrens - May 22nd, 2007 at 09:07 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Bizarre
Quote:
Originally posted by Craig Torrens

How did you come up with this one ? :jesus


VERY common sympton on Webers to "snap" out the top of the carb when idling on a cold morning if the idle jet is "just" lean.

Dont worry craig - one day you will understand. :alien

[ Edited on 21-5-2007 by Bizarre ]



I hope so Barry :kiss


phil - May 22nd, 2007 at 10:09 PM

:blush