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Carby Options - 1300cc Twin Port Beetle
Special Air Service - June 3rd, 2007 at 10:23 PM

I'm looking to renew the carby & inlet manifold on my '72 1300 standard beetle, as the heat risers have rusted through (I have heaps of trouble with massive flat spots once the air temp gets cooler) & the carby is now 35yrs old & drawing its fair share of air around the throttle shaft.

Investigations have shown that new standard carby & manifold is going to cost me between $400 & $500 so I thought I might aswell upgrade to twin carbies.

My options as far as I can see are;

1. 40mm Kadrons

2. 34mm ict Webers or Empis

3. adapt a set of Type3 carbies

Can any of these combos be set up to work correctly on a 1300cc engine?
I am leaning towards the Kadrons as they will provide more room to move when I am ready to increase engine size, but I am afraid they will be to big for a standard 1300.
The Webers would maybe not as beneficial on a future larger engine & the type 3 setup will probably be the cheapest but will bring with it the same wornout carby issues that I currently have.
If anyone can give me some advice it would be most appreciated?

Cheers
Brendan


VWCOOL - June 4th, 2007 at 06:25 AM

surely someone would have a good SH one...? Big carbs on a 1300 is a waste - but so is $500 for a new carby!


vw54 - June 4th, 2007 at 06:55 AM

Buy a new manifold best method to fix


koolkarmakombi - June 4th, 2007 at 08:53 AM

2nd new manifold and recond carb= more money in pocket and nice running car.


vw54 - June 5th, 2007 at 07:20 AM

Is your mainfold a single or dual pre heat tube ??


Special Air Service - June 5th, 2007 at 09:32 PM

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Originally posted by vw54
Is your mainfold a single or dual pre heat tube ??


Thanks for the input guys, I should have said that as soon as I have need to crack the engine apart (currently its solid apart from this issue) I will be going to at least 1600cc so that is why i am thinking of getting the bigger carbs now & rejetting etc when I increase capacity.

vw54, my existing manifold is a single preheat tube, but it is for a 31pict 3 carby so its got a smaller opening & bolt spacing is closer together than the more common 34pict 3 manifold.

Cheers
Brendan


vw54 - June 6th, 2007 at 07:12 AM

the mainfolds are availble new if you need one, make sure you get the quality German rubber boots if your replacing them


1303Steve - June 7th, 2007 at 02:38 PM

Hi

The 1300 twin port also has smaller alloy cast ends as well and the rubber boots are smaller also. Might be better off getting a whole 1600 manifold and carb, seeing as your going 1600 anyway.

Steve


Special Air Service - June 7th, 2007 at 04:06 PM

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Originally posted by 1303Steve
Hi

The 1300 twin port also has smaller alloy cast ends as well and the rubber boots are smaller also. Might be better off getting a whole 1600 manifold and carb, seeing as your going 1600 anyway.

Steve


Thanks Steve, I didn't know that, I have 1600 end castings in the shed so I'll use them if I go that way.
an anyone confirm nor deny the fact that 1300 twin port heads have smaller valves &/or ports than 1600? I would assums cam would be different also?

Where can I get a carby rebushed & are the throttle bushes the only part that wears out that cant be replaced simply by screwing them off & replacing them or am I missing something?

Cheers
Brendan


Bizarre - June 10th, 2007 at 09:17 PM

Carburettor Service Company on Parramatta Road Burwood in Sydney will do the work
Do a search i have posted there address details several times

Give them a call -good people

That is where they leak - bushings.


Special Air Service - June 10th, 2007 at 10:44 PM

Thanks Barry,
I've since found out that I can get them done here in Taree so I'm going to cet a price here.

Cheers
Brendan


ctefeh - June 12th, 2007 at 12:08 AM

SAS,
I believe the 1300 valves may be smaller. I seem to remember my old Sealed Power Catalog lists different sizes. I'll see if I can dig it up, or get brave and crawl through the underhouse pile to measure up a 1300 head I have.


Ctefeh


ctefeh - June 13th, 2007 at 09:33 PM

SAS,
I measured 35.5 x 32 head diameters on the heads that came off my AB block 1300 TP. Same size as a standard 1600 TP.


Ctefeh


Special Air Service - June 13th, 2007 at 10:30 PM

Thats outstanding Ctefeh, thanks heaps for that.
Cheers
Brendan