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Remote oil coolers: recommendations + Q's on thermo fans?
bajachris88 - March 12th, 2008 at 09:37 PM

alo alo.

I got myself on a bid for an oil filter adapter and some chunk of metal to go on the engine case to send out some oil lines from where the stock oil cooler goes.

but for the remote oil cooler that i will have to plumb in the whole network of it all, what do i use? I will surely need a thermo fan for it won't I? Should that thermo fan be connected to a thermo sensing switch or just be on always?

Thanks guys, would luv any help. i am not sure what to look out for when it comes to this. Can i just source on at the wreckers and adapt it?

VWCOOL - March 12th, 2008 at 10:50 PM

..and what makes you think you need an oil cooler?!

bajachris88 - March 12th, 2008 at 10:55 PM

serious?

So I could just throw the orig. oil cooler away and the fan over the cooling fins should be sufficient cooling? (IE: no oil cooler what so eva)
If so then thats flippin awesome.

VWCOOL - March 12th, 2008 at 11:05 PM

Uh, who said the original wasn't working?

bajachris88 - March 12th, 2008 at 11:13 PM

well the adapter for the oil lines to come out has to come from the mounts of the stock oil cooler in my situation cause my oil pump has a ATF pump infront of it, and therefore the original oil cooler has to come out to fit the adapter for the oil lines, and therefore no original oil cooler. and the original oil cooler is not going to work very well if its removed :smilegrin:

VWCOOL - March 13th, 2008 at 07:33 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by VWCOOL
..and what makes you think you need an oil cooler?!


sorry - I should have said 'aftermarket oil cooler'

VWCOOL - March 13th, 2008 at 07:35 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by VWCOOL
..and what makes you think you need an oil cooler?!


sorry - I should have said 'aftermarket oil cooler'

I have on for sale: It doesn't use any lines or hose clamps, so lessens the chance of leaks; it is mounted in a metal housing to protect it from damage and it fed air from a variable-speed fan that automatically increases the cooling depending on engine speed

Joel - March 13th, 2008 at 07:57 AM

LMAO good one glenn


Chris one of the worst things u can do to a vw engine is remove the stock oil coolers.
if u need extra cooling add a remote cooler in addition to the stock one
unfortunantly if ur staying with the stickshift u cant go full flow which makes things harder
but that stickshift will be ur performance limiter anyway so i dont think ur gonna need an extra cooler
the tranny will get hot b4 the engine does :lol:

1303Steve - March 13th, 2008 at 08:18 AM

Hi

At performance VW shop that I used to work at every performance motor had the the stock oil cooler removed and a single or dual 16 row coolers fitted under the front bumper, I never heard of any problems. I hear lots of problems with people blowing filters and lines on full flowed setups. In most cases we used the stock doghouse oil cooler block drilled and tapped to accept fittings for the oil line. No cars ever needed a thermo fan to cool the oil.

My own Beetle rally car had the 16 row cooler mounted on the vents bellow the back window, it often ran too cool so I used to wrap the cooler up to get the motor warm, it had no internal cooler.

Semi autos are much stronger than people think, I have a friend who regularly rallies a semi auto, 1916 dual Webers etc, it just uses an external trans oil cooler.

Steve

http://www.clubvw.org.au/images/RALLYSPRINTJAN04.jpg

bajachris88 - March 14th, 2008 at 03:17 PM

Thanks guys, this clears up alot of umms and arrrs in my head. + thanx vwcool for the offer on the cooler man, will keep it in mind.

I got alot of ideas for the engine bay coming up after the body work is done to the baja, this thing will be working hard + the budget allows affordability a secret little engine bay toy (Clue, it goes Psshhhh!) ;)

With this in mind, i will definitely need to look for a ATF cooler as well... (the wreckers will help me there).

bajachris88 - March 14th, 2008 at 03:21 PM

btw mad action pic Steve:tu:

Matt Ryan - March 15th, 2008 at 11:31 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by VWCOOL


I have on for sale: It doesn't use any lines or hose clamps, so lessens the chance of leaks; it is mounted in a metal housing to protect it from damage and it fed air from a variable-speed fan that automatically increases the cooling depending on engine speed



Chris,

What VWCOOL is describing is a stock oil cooler.

You need to calm down, get your body & paintwork done, get the car up & regoe'd, then drive it (not hoon it) around for 12 months or so, getting to know it (& VW's ) in the process.

Don't jump in head first & go all mad max from the start, that's just asking for trouble. Especially with your limited budget, you'll spend more time off the road than on it.

Get some experience with a stock (or close to) setup first, get to know the "feel" of your own particular Dub, things will still go wrong or break, but not as big time & you will learn from them. Then worry about the go fast stuff later, when you've gained the necessary skills & experience, + maybe by then even some money to do it with.

Think about it, every big idea you've had for this bug so far has just stretched the budget more and delayed getting on the road longer. Just come back to earth & do the bare minimum to get it on the road & enjoy it. Remember it's a Beetle, they don't need to be hotted up to be cool, they're cool anyway.

Regards,


Matt.

bajachris88 - March 15th, 2008 at 12:53 PM

Thanks man, i needed some wise words to bring me back down to earth...

I get over excited.
But ur 100% right.

greedy53 - March 15th, 2008 at 04:38 PM

it wont hurt if done right just take ya time and ask questions you will get the right answers eventually

pod - March 15th, 2008 at 04:49 PM

thems good words of wisdom Matt R ,and dont worry about the semi auto ,my goes better off the line than my manual beetle and is a pleasure to drive,have you ever seen how well an auto 4wd goes in the bush:tu:

hellbugged - March 15th, 2008 at 09:43 PM

well said Matt!........

....take that advice Chris, start small, get on the road and enjoy it for it's simplicity :!: