I was reading a two year old thread last night about a strut conversion you did on a 71 super. The conversion was the 'old school' lowering of the spring cups and re-welding them back on. I think it went 60mm lower with the cup mounts. I like to hear if any problems arose with this and if you thought it could be lowered by ,say, 10 or 15mm more? Stock 15'' rims, 145's -165's ??????????

Anyone else's experiences with this type of thing would be appreciated too.

Cheers!

i lowered this way many moons ago
i went down 70mm but wouldnt recomend this low
50-60mm max cos the stock inserts run out of travel

10-15mm could be done no probs but would it even be worth it?
the fuel tank from half to full can make that much difference
also i had 185/65 15s back then to no rubbing

I was warned 60mm max, so I did 60mm only. No problems, handles well.

Thanks Joel.

I meant 10-15mm lower than 60mm, being 70mm- 75mm.
But you answered that. If shorter strut inserts were used could you safely go down a total of 75mm from stock? or would you run into geometry problems or guard rubbing? using stock 15'' rims and 165's.

Cheers Helbus,

60mm it is. I was inspired by your "cheap" conversion and want to get the super's front end down a bit with out blowing a grand on new struts.
Let the grinding begin!

one thing to watch is that after 40mm it puts the balljoint bolt really close to the rim and may cause problems

If you are only running stock wheels this is an easier method just make sure the strut inserts don't bottom.

You can get fully adjustable struts with new inserts, coils etc for $750 the pair and they have 80mm coils so clearance on the tyre is less of an issue if you decide to run wider wheels. The other advantage of adjustable struts is spring rate and the fact you can change the height it if need be. Oh and most Superbug fronts have dead inserts and need replacing anyway.

MAke sure you post some pics if you do the stock struts modified, a few people have looked but I haven't seen anyonepost pics.

here ya go Brad
these are mine with cups lowered 70mm - too much
i also cut my bump stops in half and ditched the stock dust sleave

and stock, lowered and adjustbles

did u ever end up getting struts to suit ?

yeah i bought some mk1 golf ones and was gonna cut the strut housings down to suit

but i shoulda got Konis not cofaps - common logic should have prevailed there but oh well, lesson learned
the cofaps were to thick at the base so they didnt fit in where the superbug strut housings taper at the bottom
konis are slightly smaller in diameter so would have worked fine

the golf cofaps are 4" shorter than my KYB bug inserts

I went 60mm lower with the perches and 60mm at the back. Its sitting much better and the front is a lot stiffer. Refitted with new stock sachs inserts and the old coils. I put in a front end poly kit and new ball joints to. It does not seem to have bump steer problems or travel issues but I don't think I like how it handles. Its a little to stiff and jumpy.

I just got a flip kit off Brad and fitting it now but I think I might go with an adjustable strut setup. Got new tie rod ends and its all going back together tonight. I'll see if I can dig up a before pic for a before and after.

This is after the 60mm drop
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And the strut. You can see the benefit of the "flip kit" The tie rod looking kinda close to the body!
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I couldn't fine a 'before' pic but it was your typical nose in the air super.

Hi

Ages ago when I used struts with the lowered perches moved I used Mk1 Golf bump stops, they could be trimmed down heaps and the bug plastic sleeve could still be fitted.

Steve

Hi i was wondering if the shock and strut boot was included when you are going to convert it?