Where did you relocate the flexible brake hose mounting bracket? Its looking a little tight to mount it in a similar position on the adjustables.

I have MaXX Struts from topline and they come with a bolt on bracket to suit the application.

I will be selling these in the near future if that helps.

Both, what do the empi struts look like ? What were the worth ?

These are the Empi's except I got the 3 bolt 1302's.
$170 for the strut pair and
$80 each for the inserts.

I am intrested in the brackets. Do they mount around the strut tube?

Hi

So do they still use the big springs on the empi struts? On my V force struts I just welded the old tab in a suitable position.

Steve

I think you will have a few problems with the EMPI strut housings

Its not lowered springs you are after - it is thinner

They have a fat base - so they take stock springs.
All you will do is lower your beetle for $170+$80*2=$330

Now - This is CHEAP compared to a beam

The best you can do now is try and get hour glass springs
This will allow you to run a wider wheel that doesnt foul the spring

The benefit of a strut (like V Force - which i have) is you can run wider wheels.

The springs are going to cost another $100 US http://www.toplineparts.com/frameset.html 
This is ....$150 + post
Say $300 landed
That is $650 and inferio to a V Force style strut
Cheaper but no where near as good

I am running a 205 wheel with a 50ET
Rekon this is too much by 15mm
With the right ET wheels and maybe rolling the lip i reckon i would get a 225 under a stock guard

those empi ones are just a copy of toplines versa-strut but would be made thinner metal and sweatshop welding jobs

u can make narrow coils out of them but as Barry said they wont be as good as richards

if u need narrow spring struts on the cheap what u can try is the rear springs and retainers from an EF Civic hatch or CRX thats 88-91 models

the spring is only about 80mm vs superbug 120mm
the honda top rubber spring holder sits neatly in the bottom spring cup on superbug struts and the bottom honda spring cup welds to the upper vw spring holder

not a pretty solution but it works with stock struts so i assume it would with those empi struts
i havent tried it but know a few ppl that have

return the Empi's for a refund

"My" concern with these is i "think" the coil cup is held in place with a circlip??

Correct me if i am wrong

I dont understand the bkake clip question

Mine is in the same place
No problem

If you have 3 bolt bases they are better in the sense they are not cut
Again "my" concern with the way some people do 2 bolts is cutting and welding the tube on the clamp
V Force bore the original clamp amd slide the existing tube down and then weld it

These are V Force 3 bollters

Best to call Richard on 0408 991 247
Starts around a grand and goes up depending on what you want

Quote:

Originally posted by Bizarre These are V Force 3 bollters

can highly recommend the v force ones as they are what i upgraded to from my lowered stock struts

mmmm interesting read. I looked at going with the V Force struts and the end result was I buoght MaXX Struts and now I am importing then from Topline as I was very happy with them as far as value for money and service went. A pair of MaXX struys complete will set you back $795 for the 3 bolt units to suit you car. These have an 80mm coild and allow plenty of clearance for larger tyres.

I will get some pictures posted of them. They use a clip to hold the lower perch in place like the empi ones. This is then covered with the tappered bottom perch making it impossible for it to come off. The only draw back of this design compared to the style V-Force sell is that you need to drop the strut top out to adjust them up and down. With the thread type you can just jack the car up and you get more finite settings as you car turn the mount up and down as opposed to the clip style which restricts you to 12mm incriments.

That being said have a look around at the comments on the MaXX struts. I haven't seen anyone with any issues yet. Also have a look around at the V-Force ones and see what people say.

I think you are on a winner either way. In fact stock ones cut and welded are better than Empi crap.

I will also post some pictures of the brake line retainers, the clip onto the bottom leg and have a bolt holding them in place.

Brad

The only info i have is from SBO
My only comment on Maxx is in the way the insert is held.
Supe talks of wrapping a leather belt bit around the insert to hold it?? Comments??
$$$ they are VERY good value

What inserts do they come with??
Boge??

I have always been shot down when trying to find out what spring rating they come with
My V Force are 130lbs??
the SBO boys seem to think this is WAY over and should be 60 or 80
When Richard spoke to .....mmm forgot name - Mr Topline... they agreed to differ.
They measure different over there
Richard generally uses King springs and take the ratings from their data sheets

I say you can't beat dealing with a local because if there is a problem down the line he will look after you,try doing this with someone from overseas and see how the system works. I have no problems with dealing with guys like Richard from V Force because he will give you as much information as he can regardless whether he sells the bits or not. An even better reason is he supports the local VW scene. Les

Ok now I am really spewing I got the Empi's.
Should I be really worried that these thing are going to bend or snap?

Sounds pretty good Brad. I will be needing new coils in a couple of months. Will you be stocking the swaybar castor bushes and camber bushes that Topline offer?

Whats wrong with the Empis same as nearly all the empi products they dont work or leak or are missing a part like the brake clip or the strut towers

supers have naturally long springs compared to other cars

even when mine was 45mm off the ground running lowest setting with .......cough...... cut springs.... it wasnt even close to being loose in the cups when jacked up

u would need to chop alot out b4 being loose would be a problem and bigger problem than that would be they wouldnt seat properly in the cups

have a read of

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=329584 

guy from SBO runs them and his super is stupidly low too

a good point was made:
EMPI has sold a bunch of their adjustable struts, and I've never heard of them breaking. We all know that if it did happen, it would be plastered all over this site.