Could someone give me some advice about sticking with the standard points over the new electronic system? I have a 68 beetle 1500 that has a good strong engine that I use as a daily work car. I had someone say too me that for reliability the new system is the way to go, and others say that the points are fine, just keep having them re set every 3 months or when the its getting hard to start? Will i burn my points out sooner because of driving everyday?
go the pointless setup (about $150).........set the timing and then forget !
stay away from the cheap ones and u'll be glad u made the swap
ive had a pertronix ignitor II for over a year now been great
got so sick of car that wouldnt start after heavy rain and gapping points all the time
just keep a set of points and condensor in the glove box
ive had cheap kit die and so have 100s of other ppl too
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I have the Scorcher dizzy
Great set up
No problems at all - uses all standard Bosch caps, rotors and modules
Only thing against it is it still uses a rotor and cap
reckon if i went again i would use one of the 4 coil pack ones i have seen and get rid of the rotor and cap
how does your home made system work lee? i like your velocity stack.
thanks everybody for all your info, where is the place to get a good set up? I like the sound of the no points set up like the petronix II, but in the mean time i am getting a tune up on saturday where i can sit along side the bloke and learn how to set timing and watch the new points go in and so on, ive only had my dub about 9 months! I like the pic of the velocity stack!
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Good quality goes for points also. German Beru points installed on the kombi at re-build were still working fine when I replaced them at 60,000km,
adjusted maybe 3 times in those klms, no reliability or starting issues. Not many (if any?) Bosch points are good quality anymore.
Still more maintenance than electronic, but I'm happy with them.
Hi guys I got one of those empi acufire units .
Have not installed it yet.
Do people's experience with this indicate reliable??
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There are coil pack ones now? cool.
I've been considering going the DIY route. Partially because I suspect that the stock dissy advance is completely out of whack for my setup. It's
nothing fancy, but it has a nonstandard carb and I don't want to mess with porting a vacuum signal line for optimal calibration.
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Hi guys , very new to this whole Air cooled thing.
I would like to change to an electronic ignition system.The local VW repair shop are very reluctant to install a system for me saying stay with the
points.
That's fine but its costing heaps as the points keep burning out.
One shops accuses another of cheap points. Either way i feel electronic must have more advantages than disadvantages. I'm in Victoria so who do i go
and see to buy a unit and is this something i can do myself with little experience.
I have a 1982 Air Cooled transporter..
Do you know what distributor you have at the moment??
I did have an 1982 air cooled transporter and it has a stock electronic dizzy
Do you know if it has been changed for a 009??
If you can set points - you can do a swap over
Hi and thks for the reply. i have no idea what dizzy is on it at the moment...How do i find out.
You said yours has stock electronic iginition??? i didn't know they cam out with electronic ignition.thought they were all points....or i have simply
missread what your saying..
And as for changing points ...Nope never done it but i would like to have a go. Its costing heaps to get them done and really its the reason why i
want to change to electronic. And also hoping to get a little better fuel economy.
Have a look here
9442-B
http://www.classicveedub.com.au/SpareParts/Parts_Results.asp?NAV=6&Item_C...
or here
http://www.classicveedub.com.au/SpareParts/Parts_Results.asp?NAV=9&Item_C...
As to "how to fit"
Have a read on how to adjust normal points here
http://www.vw-resource.com/
The Empi / Petronix aint bad
Personally i HATE the quality or rubbish Bosh points even more
GO the electronic - but maybe keep a spare set, or at least joint the NRMA
Have fun
PS
Dont expect too much in the way of economy out of an 82 bus
Lovely as they are they are a BIG lump on wheels
I got about 6km/L or 16.5L/100km out of mine - but DAMN you can carry a lot of stuf REAL comfy
Most important thing to remember to ensure long life of any brand of after market drop in system, is to NEVER leave the ignition on without the
engine running, even for the shortest of intervals. If you need to do some testing on some part of the cars wiring, make sure that you pull off the
wire(s) that go from the distributor to the coil first, doesn't matter which one, both will break the circuit.
Regards,
Matt.
Sinjin, they keep replacing your points but have any of them replaced the condensor?
they dont last forever either and a dodgy one can fry points
The compufire replaces both points and condensor, i've been useing these for over 12 years. I would have thought all would be the same.
I have also been using a compufire - for about 5 or 6 years. No problems except if you connect the wires the wrong way round when re-installing the engine - oops.
Well thanks guys, very much appreciate the replies and the links.
My 82 is getting about 17 ltrs/100 k...so yr right its very thristy.
My drama started yesterday after not driving it for about 3 months.
When its started almost first shot the lifters were bagging pretty bad. So i let it sit for some time at idle and they quietened a little but not a
great deal. After letting it sit for maybe 15 minutes i thought i would go for a run around the block. Was going ok but wouldn't rev out which
hadn't been a problem before.
I suspected maybe the points had closed up maybe from corrosion. What would i know anyway i'm just guessing as i know didly squat about these
cars.
Anyway just about to turn a corner and its stopped. The engine wouldn't even turn over.
So today i will get one of my mates to give me a tow home.
So as its stands, I am hoping the points are shut....but even if they are welded shut should the engine still turn over? Sorry if i seem thick but i
have not much of a clue here but reading as much as i can.
The points and the condenser i know this has been done each time.
Just before the van had been sitting for a few months i had it tuned yet again in less than 2 months from the previous guy. What does make me a little
cross about getting it tuned is i say go over the whole thing and just fix it fuel lines whatever and each time i feel the work is a little wanting.
So anyway the Points and condenser were replaced.
The reason why it sat was because i just bought another car and not sure what i wanted to do with the Van. I love the way this things drives but the
fuel bill was huge.
Can someone tell me how i recognize what dizzy i have have too buy the right compufire system.....or is it a total replacement for the existing
dizzy.
Once again thanks heaps for the help.
PS any place in particular i should get the compufire from??
i think its the compufire kits that i was warned about? are these the cheap ones you guys are talking about? i just got a pertonicks kit from another guy who had never fitted it so im going to give this kit a try and see how it goes. i have never used this sort of kit before but with only 2 wires i cant go wrong
hi guys I was about to look for forums that is actually talks about ignition points well i bumb into this forum and i was curious about the electronic points i was confuse what was the difference between the electronic with that ignition points and do Omix Ignition Points have a very good quality?
What about Mallory?
Jake Raby uses them on his engines.
http://www.malloryperformance.com/pdf/74397G.pdf
Holy crap! after reading that pdf, no wonder he uses them. would be expensive no doubt.
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Oh I must of missed that