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floorpan modifications
condo008 - March 8th, 2009 at 03:18 PM

G'day,

As i've decided to place a early beetle body onto a later pan (1969 balljoint swing axle) I'm coming up with plans to place air ride suspension in place of the torsion bars.

In doing this i want to make the pan lay basically flat on the ground and to do this i'm planning a tranny rise. the size of the rise depends on how i want the ride height to be.

Anyway with setting up the rear air ride i want to do a different set up to how most set up the rear. this new design involves welding a set up similar to a triangulated four link. this would involve welding on the axle tubes and i was wondering if this would be a good idea or a bad one.

I want to do this sort of set up as i think it would be safer than notching the spring plates and also relying on the spring plate cover to hold the spring plate in place.

here is a picture of a floorpan where i have used paint to give a basic idea about the set up.

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j167/condo45/l227.jpg

thanks brad


matberry - March 8th, 2009 at 05:54 PM

Why cant you pick up on the normal spring plate 3 bolts? I dont think welding to the middle of the tube would last without a heavy strengthening job that would start there anyway.


condo008 - March 8th, 2009 at 06:11 PM

oh sorry the picture was only a rough diagram, i would move the links depending on where i would get the most strength. But my main question is would i be able to weld on the tubes with out damaging anything internally


vw54 - March 8th, 2009 at 06:27 PM

looks good where do u live at

Talk with Michael at Vintage 02-9789-1777 has done this B4


vw54 - March 8th, 2009 at 06:28 PM

Why are u using a split case gearbox ???


11CAB - March 8th, 2009 at 06:31 PM

Why are you using an old Splitcase box?


hellbugged - March 8th, 2009 at 06:32 PM

axle tubes are good wall thickness, i would think yeah, welding would work..........pretty sure "westi" set up a four link with welding on the axle tubes for his junka build........have a look thru his thread or flip him a PM.


hellbugged - March 8th, 2009 at 06:34 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 11CAB
Why are you using an old Splitcase box?


not his, just used for example.........


condo008 - March 8th, 2009 at 06:46 PM

yeah thanks for clearing that up damien. that picture was only used as an example. i'm using a 1500 gearbox out of my old 1969 beetle. I'll have a look through westi's build up.


vw54 - March 8th, 2009 at 07:02 PM

i have some pics from LAX some where re this mod but talk with Mike first


condo008 - March 8th, 2009 at 07:05 PM

that would be good, to see pics. anything will help.

thanks


skelaaleks - March 8th, 2009 at 10:20 PM

whats wrong with a split case gearbox?


westi - March 11th, 2009 at 12:25 AM

not a cheap excercise buy any means.you will proberly use around 1000 bucks worth of hymies and there will be a heafty labour content.
(02) 9773 7244 is my number .
shocks ,springs,hymies moly or steel arm's yada yada,blah blah and all that.4-5k at first guess.
if that doesn't scare you off,you have my number ,you can call me anytime.


DylanDubber96-1303-LBUG - May 26th, 2009 at 05:46 PM

Brad, You can buy universial air-ride suspension kits from port macquarie ARB 4X4 center next to fredos meats in the industrial area from memory the kit was'nt that much but yes you would need to make some serious floorpan mods but its a great idea i reccon theres not that many air ride bugs around and it would be great in port.

From Dylan


mac76 - May 27th, 2009 at 06:09 PM

and heim joints can be bought from mcdonald bros in melburg fo about 25 each these are ones that can be engineerd for the street.