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Thro Out Bearing
71-BEETLE-SEDAN - October 23rd, 2009 at 06:28 PM

Can people post up some pics of what the throw out bearing should look like in a 1964 beetle. I think mine is shot but just need to make sure.

Thanks


johny rotten - October 23rd, 2009 at 06:47 PM

mmm i would have thought that a worn out thrust bearing would look very similar to a good one
:spin:


71-BEETLE-SEDAN - October 23rd, 2009 at 06:48 PM

Im not sure its the throw out bearing, its the one that stays in the gearboix when the engine is out


bajachris88 - October 23rd, 2009 at 09:40 PM

the one that sits over the input shaft and springs forward towards the clutch when you put your foot on the clutch pedal?

thtas the one!

its a standard pre 70's...were only 2 types i am aware of (same as pre 70's early kombi, type 3, beetle etc, all same). i unfortunately am stuck with a brand new early one in my garage as it didn't suit my post 70's kombi box. So had to get the later.

EARLY: (This is what you want)

http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=VWC%2D111%2D141%2D165%2DA 

Early has the round clips on the side of the bearing, while the late has squarish


71-BEETLE-SEDAN - October 23rd, 2009 at 10:27 PM

Yeah on the input shaft.

Mine seems to have like a semicircle sticking out the sides not a ful circle. Ill post up pics tomoro but how hard is it to change and i think ill need at least one new spring cause only found half of one in the bottom of the trans.


bajachris88 - October 23rd, 2009 at 11:09 PM

yea sorry... thats what i meant. its semi circular... but none the less not squarish like the late.

there are only 2 types...

Not hard at all, and new springs are cheap. HD springs are also available for a little extra.


68AutoBug - October 24th, 2009 at 01:46 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 71-BEETLE-SEDAN
Can people post up some pics of what the throw out bearing should look like in a 1964 beetle. I think mine is shot but just need to make sure.

Thanks


the early original ones were usually thrust bearings..
and were solid..
with a new type thrust/throw out bearing -there are either ball or roller bearings inside it...
so place your hand on the face of it and turn it around...
it should be smooth...

its usual to replace the spigot bearing in the flywheel at the same time...

cheers

LEE


greedy53 - October 24th, 2009 at 05:46 AM

replace it i have a FEW AND YOU CAN HAVE 1 IF THAT HELPS
idiot putter caps on again


71-BEETLE-SEDAN - October 24th, 2009 at 08:58 AM

Here are two pics


http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt347/71-BEETLE-SEDAN/Photo0115.jpg


http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt347/71-BEETLE-SEDAN/Photo0116.jpg


Camo - October 24th, 2009 at 02:02 PM

Thats rooted. Looks like its slipped off the throw out arms and worn the shit out o the throw bearing face.


71-BEETLE-SEDAN - October 24th, 2009 at 02:30 PM

Yeah it had busted one of the springs and only had the one on it. I am wondering if it would have done any damage to the clutch and other parts. Also the input shaft seems to move alot.


Camo - October 24th, 2009 at 03:16 PM

The input shafts to have more movement then say a Holden gearbox for eg. Check the clutch fork for for wear, which allowed the bearing to move out of position. Also I would be thinking there may be some damage to the clutch pressure plate, pending design.

Kev


71-BEETLE-SEDAN - October 24th, 2009 at 03:30 PM

There doesnt seem to be any wear on the clutch fork.

Here is a pic of the clutch, i dont know much about them sorry.


http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt347/71-BEETLE-SEDAN/Photo0117.jpg


johny rotten - October 24th, 2009 at 11:07 PM

180mm early type , u need the full kit


LUFTMEISTER - October 25th, 2009 at 07:10 AM

don't forget to replace both seals while its out. Cheap insurance :tu:


71-BEETLE-SEDAN - October 25th, 2009 at 07:10 AM

What do you mean when you say i need the full kit.


LUFTMEISTER - October 25th, 2009 at 09:47 AM

clutch plate+ pressure plate + throw out bearing. then the crankshaft seal and the output shaft seal.


71-BEETLE-SEDAN - October 25th, 2009 at 02:20 PM

OKay, where should i get them from?


matberry - October 25th, 2009 at 02:33 PM

Why do you think he needs a full clutch kit from that photo???


type3vw - October 26th, 2009 at 04:48 PM

it doesnt look as though you have damaged the pressure plate, you may just need a new release bearing. if you need a new
clutch kit we sell them at highway clutch and brake. kit number is vwk18001n or vwk18002n. our prices are good too.
cheers.


71-BEETLE-SEDAN - October 26th, 2009 at 05:47 PM

Only problem is its in melbourne, how much is postage to 2575 roughly