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kombi_kid - July 9th, 2003 at 08:57 AM

hey
where gonna build a rotisserie for our splitties.
where are the best mounting points for the brackets??? i was thinking the where the bumper bar bolts on at both rear and front?
cheers
rhys


geodon - July 9th, 2003 at 05:50 PM

No, they are too light-the frame will twist.
Use the front beam mounts at the front.
The rear is a bit tricky. I used the mounts for the rear apron PLUS the rear bumber mounts. Complicated but it works.

I have heard of people using the rear torsion bar tubes with GIANT U-bolts- but that's 1 hell of a reach from the rear pivot point.
I'm in the bush now but I'll post some pics later.


geodon - July 9th, 2003 at 08:11 PM


geodon - July 9th, 2003 at 08:13 PM


geodon - July 9th, 2003 at 08:14 PM


geodon - July 9th, 2003 at 08:16 PM

If you want bigger images U2U me your e-mail address.


type82e - July 9th, 2003 at 10:15 PM

check out this link rhys
http://geocities.com/solohobbit/bustisserie/bustisserie.htm 
marcel


geodon - July 10th, 2003 at 06:19 AM

It's no accident the unit in the above link looks like mine. I copied it!


geodon - July 11th, 2003 at 06:46 AM

And as the villain in the 1st Dirty Harry movie said when he saw Clint's 44 Magnum " My, it's a big one!"


kombi_kid - July 11th, 2003 at 07:51 AM

hey
thanks for that it helps alot!!!! do u know if bolkting onto the frame horns for the gearbox would be any good??? just for added strength???
i like the look of this one!!!
what weight handling casters do u have?
cheers
rhys


geodon - July 11th, 2003 at 01:17 PM

I asked that very question of the designer in the link aboce & he said it's too risky- they may bend. Anyhow, that's still a LONG reach. The apron mounts might look flimsy but they are very cross-braced. Then attaching to one of the rear bumper bracket holes spreads the load still further- sort of like a space frame, I guess.
The castors are 8 inch with nylon "tyres". You may get away with 2 & 2 wheels but gee it's handy being able to push the bugger sideways! However with 4 castors, it's impossible to tow.


kombi_kid - July 11th, 2003 at 09:20 PM

hey
yer it looks all to easy!!!! just got to work out all the dimensions!!! u dont happen to have them do you?
cheers
rhys


LOWBUG - July 13th, 2003 at 02:24 PM

If you rip its hart out its not a volkswagen anymore


Stanley - July 13th, 2003 at 02:30 PM

Their not talking abour rotary engines.


geodon - July 13th, 2003 at 07:01 PM

And we're not talking chickens or doner kebabs either!!

Rhys, the longitudinal bits are 6m long. The 2 transverse bits are like an upside down "T": 2300mm accross & 1800mm high. They are made of 75mm heavy guage square steel tube.

The nice thing about this design is that it assembles using clamps made up of 100mm square bits of 8mm plate with 10mm holes in each corner to take bolts. This gives the flexibility to be able to take various sizes of car bodies.

[Edited on 13-7-2003 by geodon]


kombi_kid - July 13th, 2003 at 08:24 PM

hey geoden
where the arrow is pointing thats is temporary right just to take some weight?
also how long is the tube inside a tube (rotating part?) hopefully go get a quote on steel morrow!!!
cheers
rhys


geodon - July 15th, 2003 at 09:22 AM

Getting the thing 100% balanced is hit or miss. The nature of the beast makes it top heavy so it tends to "roll over". I have a sort of grub screw to restrict rotation, but it's not enough for serious rolling around the garage movement hence I have a strut to bolt it in a fixed position. When its stationary, I can use a car stand under 1 of the rotating "T's"to hoild it still.
I'm in the bush now so I can't check but I thing the big round one is 100mm ID & the smaller one is a loose fit-use plenty of grease! The overall length of the rotating head is about 600mm.
BTW how did you get away with such a big image? When I resize mine to 50 KB the results are as I have posted above!!!

[Edited on 14-7-2003 by geodon]


Purple Martin - July 15th, 2003 at 12:03 PM

geodon - Try dropping the image's compression: it's probably at 100% compression, but you can drop it as low as about 20% and it usually still looks OK.


geodon - July 15th, 2003 at 02:03 PM

Thanks PM. I have "thumbs+" software & have been reducing them to 50kb by re-sizing from about 650x400 to something like 200x120.
I'll see if I can vary compressions.
Cheers.


kombi_kid - July 16th, 2003 at 08:05 AM

hey
sweet geoden!!! you should get photoshop works wonders!!! just about ready(where building a shed at the moment to fit and work on all the dubs!)
cheers
rhys