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donn - December 9th, 2010 at 03:22 PM

Planing a long trip in the bugeye wench, figure it would be smart to take a spare tyre / whee,l what car would have one to fit a 14 inch 4 stud, any suggestions?
Thanks
Don


68AutoBug - December 9th, 2010 at 07:43 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by donn
Planing a long trip in the bugeye wench, figure it would be smart to take a spare tyre / whee,l what car would have one to fit a 14 inch 4 stud, any suggestions?
Thanks
Don


Nothing I can think of....

VW is 4 x 130mm

and normally 15 inch....

a space saver would get you out of trouble if it had the correct centre and holes...

but again
a couple of bottles of tyre stop leak [or whatever its called]
and a good small high pressure 12 volt compressor to pump the tyres up...

or an old 4 stud standard wheel and tyre... 15 inch...

don't forget a jack will be needed with a tyre/wheel... lol

LEE


donn - December 10th, 2010 at 11:47 AM

I have measured the bolt / stud centres on my buggy and as near as I can measure them they are 93mm center to center between adjacent bolts, I have some rims (14x6 mags) off a 73 L bug and they measure the same, surely both cars can't have the same non standard conversion, so am I measuring them correctly? ie:- adjacent bolts, or are they measured between opposite bolts, that would seem strange to me as it would make it hard to measure a 5 stud wheel.


Snap Crackle Bang - December 10th, 2010 at 12:24 PM

130mm is the PCD or pitch circle diameter of VW 4 stud Beetle hubs. The PCD will be the same as the distamce between the centres of diagonally opposite bolts. I recon that is what you have.
130mm PCD is larger than anything common over here.

Cheers


donn - December 10th, 2010 at 01:17 PM

ARSO, they are measured so that the center of the bolts line up with a circle of a given diameter, that diameter being the PCD (in my case 130mm, give or take, as I reckon closer to 132mm) so if it's "larger than anything common over here" why would I have two vehicles the same or probably more to the point where is "over here"


Special Air Service - December 10th, 2010 at 07:10 PM

Don,
you have a PM mate.

Cheers
Brendan


Joel - December 10th, 2010 at 09:28 PM

You're not gonna find a space saver with 4x130

The only cars that ran that pattern were 4lug air cooled vws, porsche 914 and a couple of 70s models Lancias

Spare in a can is your best option


68AutoBug - December 10th, 2010 at 10:34 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by donn
I have measured the bolt / stud centres on my buggy and as near as I can measure them they are 93mm center to center between adjacent bolts, I have some rims (14x6 mags) off a 73 L bug and they measure the same, surely both cars can't have the same non standard conversion, so am I measuring them correctly? ie:- adjacent bolts, or are they measured between opposite bolts, that would seem strange to me as it would make it hard to measure a 5 stud wheel.


[size=5]NOW WE GET IT DONN..

You have 5 stud wheels We were looking at 4 stud wheels lol

there were the odd car with that pattern back in the 50s...
besides the VW beetle and Kombi..
but the VW 5 stud wheel is the easiest to find.. lol

cheers

LEE

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donn - December 11th, 2010 at 05:55 AM

Sorry Lee, you don't get it, I have 4 stud, reading back over my post I can see that it is a bit vague, only mentioned 5 stud as I couldn't figure out how the stud centers were measured on a 5 stud if you measured opposite bolts.
Brenden, thanks for the offer, do you realy have 4 stud space saver?, if you do what car did it come off?.


Special Air Service - December 11th, 2010 at 08:49 AM

Don,

No not space saver, just have some 14 inch buggy wheels that would suit if it comes to the crunch.

Cheers
Brendan


ian.mezz - December 11th, 2010 at 09:12 AM

no good having one of those space saver wheels, if when it comes time to use it, your car body is sitting on the ground because the wheel is to small :crazy::lol:


Joel - December 11th, 2010 at 10:26 AM

Another problem with space savers is 14" ones which are the most common don't clear VW calipers on the front as I found out
Had to get a 15" one