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Electric Ignition for Dizzy
smithy68 - March 13th, 2011 at 06:47 PM

Hi, would like some information on what the best electric ignition setup to run in my 67 vw beetle, it's a factory fitted vacum advance dizzy.
Also if someone has one lying around not to be used I would buy it.
Thanks alot.

68AutoBug - March 13th, 2011 at 08:21 PM

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Originally posted by smithy68
Hi,
I would like some information on what the best electric ignition setup to run in my 67 vw beetle, it's a factory fitted vacuum advance dizzy.

Also if someone has one lying around not to be used I would buy it.

Thanks alot.


check out the VWA magazine as these kits are getting cheaper..

but make sure You get one to suit Your distributor...

check out aircooled.com and CIP1 etc in the USA websites..

You will need to get the number off Your distributor...
as the electric ignitions are made to suit a Distributor...
One size doesn't fit all....

Pertronix or Compufire are well known brands...

cheers

LEE

Bizarre - March 13th, 2011 at 08:25 PM

I run Scorcher
http://www.performanceignition.com.au/home 
It runs Bosch cap, rotor and module.
All easily available from your local auto store

I would also consider the coil pack set up

smithy68 - March 14th, 2011 at 08:07 AM

I think I'll get a pertronix kit, I have a GT40 coil resistor type which is only 3 weeks old, should I also get a flame thrower coil to go with the kit or will the gt40 be ok?

Joel - March 14th, 2011 at 11:53 AM

Just watch with GT40 coils resistor vs non resistor, I see so many people mix them up

GT40 is fitted with no ballast resistor, it's the GT40R that is.
Aircooled VWs weren't fitted with ballast resistors and dont have the wiring there for them either so if you hook one up you need to know what your doing.

They only get 12 volts while cranking then run through the resistor normally.
I've seen so many burned out GT40R's on VW's cos people just fit them not knowing, but also seen resistors fitted and wired up wrong too.

Too many old ford/holden bogan mechanics working on VWs over the years :rolleyes:

smithy68 - March 14th, 2011 at 05:02 PM

So your saying the GT40R (the coil I purchased) will be fine with the electric ignition setup?

Joel - March 14th, 2011 at 05:24 PM

Good question

You'll have to check what the resistance is but I don't like your chances.

Most electronic ignitions from memory like about 2.5 ohms.
Seeing as VWs were never designed to have external ballast resistor type coils most electronic ignitions are designed for internally resisted coils like the GT40 not the GT40R.

Eitherway though if you run that coil you're gonna have to use a ceramic resistor or it's gonna burn out pretty quick.
They are designed to run at 9volts.


Pertonix Ignitor II are good cos they are self regulating and don't give a shit what coil you use.
I got one in my 1776, just not sure if it would fit a stock vac advance dissy, nearly all electronic ignitions are designed for 009.

I did have a compu-fire in a SVDA though, they fit if u machine down the rotor arm abit.

modnrod - March 19th, 2011 at 11:15 PM

http://www.boostengineering.net/product_p/edis4kitvwblk.htm 

Newt - March 20th, 2011 at 05:52 PM

Joel

I thought with R coils, the power went permanently to the resister. Its just that when the resister was cold, it didnt resist and the coil got a bit more juice. Could be wrong though.

Newt

matberry - March 20th, 2011 at 06:05 PM

The resistor is used most of the time, it's only during cranking that the resistor would be bypassed if the car is wired for it which no aircooler is.

Basically, a R type coil is a 9 volt coil, the resistor drops the voltage to 9 volts but when cranking the engine at startup, the voltage in the system drops because of the large electrical load of the starter, so the ign switch bypasses the resistor giving full voltage in the system directly to the coil, better spark for easier starting.