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Vacuum Advance dizzy

smithy68 - April 2nd, 2011 at 08:04 AM

I am looking at buying a new electric dizzy, vacuum advance for my rebuilt 1300cc SP motor.
Wolfsburg Automotive have them for $95 with free delivery, with plazmex rapidfire ignition, my question is are these cheap and nasty or a good deal?

azzatron - April 2nd, 2011 at 03:31 PM

I've been looking at these myself. Would be keen to hear what others with experience have to say.

waltermitty - April 2nd, 2011 at 04:04 PM

probably free delivery within US not OS? Mitchell

smithy68 - April 2nd, 2011 at 05:40 PM

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Originally posted by waltermitty
probably free delivery within US not OS? Mitchell

The shop is in Australia.

cesiumfrog - April 2nd, 2011 at 09:42 PM

hmm..i have one..or something similar i bought for ~150.
dual del 40's, 1916 w110
i put it on and timing went erratic , i.e. timing wavered over 3-4 degrees??? car felt smooth to drive but kinda dead, so i sent it back to supplier who eventually
returned it saying he checked it and it was fine! i tried again..same thing
i put the 009 back on and the car took off and felt alive again.
so ..i don't know..maybe this one would run allright with standard carb (vacuum) and engine?
ask the supplier if it will work properly with your setup before handing over the cash?

68AutoBug - April 3rd, 2011 at 04:25 PM

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Originally posted by smithy68
I am looking at buying a new electric dizzy, vacuum advance for my rebuilt 1300cc SP motor.
Wolfsburg Automotive have them for $95 with free delivery, with plazmex rapidfire ignition, my question is are these cheap and nasty or a good deal?

Hi
I don't know...
I thought I'd do the right thing and buy a new Bosch SVDA dizzy and pertronix electronic ignition kit from aircooled.net in the USA early last year...
Cost Me $300AU...

But it was worth it....
My near new 009 which I thought went fine...
is crap compared to the New SVDA...
aircooled.net adjust the distributor to whatever carbies or carby You are using... Each one is tested on their machine.

its sooo smooth its unreal... from just touching the accelerator
until You have your foot thru the floor... EXCELLENT...
My engine is a H0 [1500] single port [now 1600cc] and its goes great... VERY PLEASED...

These distributors do NOT work with early carburetors as they don't have enough Vacuum...

What carburetor are You using??

from 7.5 degrees to around 40 degrees advance....
I could NEVER go back to a 009..dizzy...
maybe that is why VW never used them....
plus fuel economy is much better..

LEE

68AutoBug - April 3rd, 2011 at 04:30 PM

Just remember that all these very cheap distributors are made in china..

where copies are not always accurate copies...

and quantity is usually above quality .....

it seems that if it looks the same.... it is the same.... YIKES

Menangler - April 3rd, 2011 at 04:56 PM

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Originally posted by cesiumfrog
hmm..i have one..or something similar i bought for ~150.
dual del 40's, 1916 w110
i put it on and timing went erratic , i.e. timing wavered over 3-4 degrees??? car felt smooth to drive but kinda dead, so i sent it back to supplier who eventually
returned it saying he checked it and it was fine! i tried again..same thing
i put the 009 back on and the car took off and felt alive again.
so ..i don't know..maybe this one would run allright with standard carb (vacuum) and engine?
ask the supplier if it will work properly with your setup before handing over the cash?

I had the same experience, couldn't get the timing right, it moved all over the place, the vac can also failed in a week, I sent it back for a refund and rebuilt an original German one, no probs with it.

68AutoBug - April 3rd, 2011 at 05:42 PM

Hi

when I bought Mine, I hadn't seen the cheap ones here in Australia...

I did however see the HotSpark.com distributors...
which are much cheaper than the Bosch SVDA from aircooled.net

but aren't made by Bosch....

I am now glad I bought the best.....

cheers

LEE

PS: it seems so stupid to make items that look great but are the incorrect size etc... or with distributors ... maybe the springs are rubbish or the weights are incorrect etc.... Lee

cesiumfrog - April 3rd, 2011 at 06:02 PM

yeah....get what you pay for.

Imac - April 4th, 2011 at 09:02 AM

Don't know why you don't throw dizzy in the bin
EDIS from a ford mondeo $100 including post(ebay from atomic jaw breaker USA if you can't find anything cheap at the local wreckers)
Megajolt from http://www.autosportlabs.com/ Less than $200 including postage.
$50 for sundries
$350 max for a fully programmable dizzyless ignition with all the bells and whistles you'll ever need.
Most of us are familiar with the Megasquirt. This is the ignition only version.
Do yourself a favour check it out before you dismiss it. Also read the forums on samba like this http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=350472&start=0&postd...

waveman1500 - April 4th, 2011 at 08:57 PM

That's all well and good Imac, but your $350 for a Megajolt system doesn't include the tuning! Not many VW owners would be comfortable mapping their own timing curves. With the correct distributor you just bolt it on and go. No fabrication, finding room for extra parts and tuning. Having said all this I am halfway tempted to go Megasquirt and convert my bug to full EFI, given how expensive Webers are.

smithy68 - April 4th, 2011 at 11:05 PM

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Originally posted by 68AutoBug

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I am running a H30 / 31 pict brosol carb.

Imac - April 6th, 2011 at 07:52 AM

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Originally posted by waveman1500
That's all well and good Imac, but your $350 for a Megajolt system doesn't include the tuning! Not many VW owners would be comfortable mapping their own timing curves. With the correct distributor you just bolt it on and go. No fabrication, finding room for extra parts and tuning. Having said all this I am halfway tempted to go Megasquirt and convert my bug to full EFI, given how expensive Webers are.

Yes it does, the default map is good enough for most N/A VW's and I'll email anyone a few more tweeked maps if desired In my opinion it's easier to tune than undoing a 10mm nut and turning the dizzy, it's just a different mind set to get your head around the amount of flexibility.
PS I'm running it on a stock 1600TP with a 32/36 Weber and a 1776 turbo with a Weber DMTT with maps to suit both if anyone wants them.
PSS Waveman please go megasquirt EFI because I'll want to pick your brains (if you'll allow me) when you've got it sorted.

smithy68 - April 10th, 2011 at 04:46 PM

So should I just use my standard dizzy and fit a electric kit to it?? the dizzy is a Bosch 113-905-205 K?

68AutoBug - April 11th, 2011 at 08:03 PM

Yes You can do that so You won't need to adjust Your points all the time...
set and forget...

cheers

LEE

fish26 - April 12th, 2011 at 08:17 PM

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Originally posted by Imac
Don't know why you don't throw dizzy in the bin
EDIS from a ford mondeo $100 including post(ebay from atomic jaw breaker USA if you can't find anything cheap at the local wreckers)
Megajolt from http://www.autosportlabs.com/ Less than $200 including postage.
$50 for sundries
$350 max for a fully programmable dizzyless ignition with all the bells and whistles you'll ever need.
Most of us are familiar with the Megasquirt. This is the ignition only version.
Do yourself a favour check it out before you dismiss it. Also read the forums on samba like this http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=350472&start=0&postd...

Each to their own mate, I am a bit old school so give me a Magneto or stock vacuum dizzy any time, some spare points in the glove box and voila, when the EDIS shits itself call a towie.