36hp engine number do you know what this means?
kuta - April 28th, 2011 at 09:22 AM
Can anyone tell me what they know about the engine number on a 36hp engine i picked up? The number stamped is KDA001914. I was told it was out of a 59
but would have thought that it should have numbers only and start with a 2 or a 3.
Kombi_Rescue - April 28th, 2011 at 12:59 PM
thats a factory exchange engine.....they were available complete turn key option...cheers
oldtub356 - April 28th, 2011 at 01:00 PM
I have x2 answers plus a guess:
Worldwide KD "usually" means KnockDown in the auto industry. But, it can vary within each manufacturer as needs demand. There is a German
translation for KD (which I can't find at the moment), it doesn't translate precisely to "KnockDown", more like "factory supplied"??.
1). Some times it is/was used when counties (like Australia/New Zealand) had heavy import tariffs on fully assembled imported cars. Knocked Down full
or partial car Kits where imported at a lot cheaper tariff because of local labour being used to complete assembly. At various times VWs in Oz had
changing amounts of KD component/assemblies.
Some significant parts "could be" marked as KD - Chassis, Engine, Transmission.
2). Often, repairs, such as full engine replacements, would see either an engine case or a full engine replaced with a factory unit (ie. not repaired)
- these would be marked KD prefix to a new (usually low) serial number. (For Warranty record purposes)
The guess: The KDA could mean "KnockDownAustralia" - the VWAustralian factory being the source of a replacement engine or case. The use of VWA
stamped on some components/accessories was standard practice. It is possible that early days assembly in Oz - before full factory production, versions
of KD were being used when necessary, some marked KD, some not.
These KD numbering processes were not religiously applied and come and went over time.
Have a look here for the long answer re: KnockDown:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knock-down_kit
vw54 - April 28th, 2011 at 01:24 PM
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thats a factory exchange engine.....
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Ill go with Steves answer
farkengruven - April 28th, 2011 at 05:16 PM
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Originally
posted by oldtub356
I have x2 answers plus a guess:
Worldwide KD "usually" means KnockDown in the auto industry. But, it can vary within each manufacturer as needs demand. There is a German
translation for KD (which I can't find at the moment), it doesn't translate precisely to "KnockDown", more like "factory supplied"??.
1). Some times it is/was used when counties (like Australia/New Zealand) had heavy import tariffs on fully assembled imported cars. Knocked Down full
or partial car Kits where imported at a lot cheaper tariff because of local labour being used to complete assembly. At various times VWs in Oz had
changing amounts of KD component/assemblies.
Some significant parts "could be" marked as KD - Chassis, Engine, Transmission.
2). Often, repairs, such as full engine replacements, would see either an engine case or a full engine replaced with a factory unit (ie. not repaired)
- these would be marked KD prefix to a new (usually low) serial number. (For Warranty record purposes)
The guess: The KDA could mean "KnockDownAustralia" - the VWAustralian factory being the source of a replacement engine or case. The use of VWA
stamped on some components/accessories was standard practice. It is possible that early days assembly in Oz - before full factory production, versions
of KD were being used when necessary, some marked KD, some not.
These KD numbering processes were not religiously applied and come and went over time.
Have a look here for the long answer re: KnockDown:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knock-down_kit
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No offence, but that is a whole lot of dribble there.......No need to guess, if you don't know....then you don't know.
Factory VW exchange engines in Germany were stamped KD. KD stands for Kunendienst ("exchange service")
Factory VW exchange engines in Australia were stamped KDA. The A being or Australia.
Kombi_Rescue - April 28th, 2011 at 07:02 PM
no offence ...what would I know ..family dealer since 1955...and fitted plenty as a full turnkey option
1303Steve - April 28th, 2011 at 07:24 PM
Hi
The later VW exchange short motors (no tinware, exhaust or fuel system etc) had no engine number, just the engine type letters F, AD etc and a VW
symbol with recycling styel circular arrow around it.
Steve