Are wheel spacers legal in victoria?
mjwcookie - May 19th, 2011 at 07:00 AM
Hi All.
I have been researching tire and wheel sizes for a couple of weeks and came across a seller in QLD. He states that the use of spacers to make wheels
fit (change ET) is illegal and makes the car unroadworthy. What is the truth here?
Is it only illegal if the total tire width across the car (from left to right side) exceeds a certain limit, or illegal to do it at all? What is the
allowable increase of vehicle (don't know what to call it) tracking/width/ etc.
how would this effect insurance?
I am in Victoria.
vwo60 - May 19th, 2011 at 07:55 AM
Any wheel spacer is illegal with the exception of cars that came fitted with them, ie porsche 911.
Bizarre - May 19th, 2011 at 12:17 PM
ok - I will throw an exception in there
May be wrong ....... but................
An IRS beetle with 944 trailing arms is allowed spacers.
STIDUB - May 19th, 2011 at 12:23 PM
if its deemed to have the full suspension & brake setup and the factory spacer on it then yes. anything else, no
track in qld is ZERO reduction, up to 25mm increase
insurance, screwed unless everything is legit
funny how these rules make narrowed beams, super skinny fronts, crazy wide wheels, and the majority of people with spacers would make insurance
pointless....
farkengruven - May 19th, 2011 at 08:02 PM
Wheel spacers are NOT illegal to own........you just can't use them on your vehicle on Victorian roads. 
helbus - May 19th, 2011 at 09:01 PM
Wheel spacers are not illegal if used correctly. They must be fixed to the hub/ drum/ disc. They must be made so they cannot be left off when taking
wheel off and on. There must be enough wheel stud thread. Spacer must be made of steel or aluminium. Plastic, glass or wood is not allowed
Track is measured from centre of tyre tread across from side to side. Maximum track increase is 25mm allowable. For example if you widen your tyres by
4 inches per side, but still have them set so the measurement from centre of tread from side to side does not gain more than 25mm, then that is ok.
I am involved in engineering cars for Vic registration on a weekly basis.
greedy53 - May 20th, 2011 at 07:29 AM
how do the 4x4 boysg et away with it just about all blokes i know use them, a few have need to make insurance claims and don't have any problems
Joel - May 20th, 2011 at 12:24 PM
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Spacer must be made of steel or aluminium. Plastic, glass or wood is not allowed
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But then noone can see my chrome wheel studs 
It's like HID light retrofit kits, everywhere sell them, ebay, autobahn etc so people just think they are safe and legal.
Autobahn have spacers on the shelf, i doubt it says anything on the packaging but if it does it would be tiny fine print half cut off on the bottom -
for offroad use only.... 
psimitar - May 21st, 2011 at 04:06 PM
Hang on.....so for Oz if you buy a CSP LP front disc conversion that uses a bolt on plate to the hub to allow 205 PCD wheels to be used then this is
illegal? even tho it is part of the TUV approved kit that is far more strigent than Oz rules?
That's crap isn't it?
helbus - May 21st, 2011 at 06:28 PM
Just wear it. You can have an FIA approved harness in a V8 supercar or Formula 1 racecar. However they are not allowed for road use.
psimitar - May 22nd, 2011 at 11:13 AM
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Just wear it. You can have an FIA approved harness in a V8 supercar or Formula 1 racecar. However they are not allowed for road use.
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Oh I dunno........ a proper reply might be helpful 
helbus - May 22nd, 2011 at 04:11 PM
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Hang on.....so for Oz if you buy a CSP LP front disc conversion that uses a bolt on plate to the hub to allow 205 PCD wheels to be used then this is
illegal? even tho it is part of the TUV approved kit that is far more strigent than Oz rules?
That's crap isn't it?
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If your engineer accepts the TUV report that has the information that comes with the kit, and the kit allows everything to go on in a way that makes
the vehicle still within road rules, guidelines, regulations and laws. And the engineer will sign it off on the final report along with everything
else on your car, then it is OK. Speak to the engineer.
I can't get FIA approved harnesses allowed in a road car, and they are V8 supercar approved. Just have to go along with it and change seatbelts to
the track, and then put the other belts in at the track. So if you have to, then you have to change the brakes at the track, or trailer your car to
the event.
psimitar - May 23rd, 2011 at 07:25 AM
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Hang on.....so for Oz if you buy a CSP LP front disc conversion that uses a bolt on plate to the hub to allow 205 PCD wheels to be used then this is
illegal? even tho it is part of the TUV approved kit that is far more strigent than Oz rules?
That's crap isn't it?
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If your engineer accepts the TUV report that has the information that comes with the kit, and the kit allows everything to go on in a way that makes
the vehicle still within road rules, guidelines, regulations and laws. And the engineer will sign it off on the final report along with everything
else on your car, then it is OK. Speak to the engineer.
I can't get FIA approved harnesses allowed in a road car, and they are V8 supercar approved. Just have to go along with it and change seatbelts to
the track, and then put the other belts in at the track. So if you have to, then you have to change the brakes at the track, or trailer your car to
the event.
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Interesting. So I suppose the kit Volksconversion does with the 4 bolt plate is already approved to be able to be marketed?
vwo60 - May 23rd, 2011 at 08:10 AM
you can market anything, it's just not approved.
psimitar - May 23rd, 2011 at 11:55 AM
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you can market anything, it's just not approved.
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So there is a good chance that the 205PCD kit would need approval from an engineer once on the car?
I would of thought that a company has to sell pre-approved equipment? Is this not the case?