camber on front
baghall - June 11th, 2011 at 01:53 AM
Hi
Was wondering if anyone can help with ideas. I have noticed that the front left wheel has developed some negative camber. When I lifted the front to
check the ball joints there was no play. It seems to vary as well as to how much camber there is.
I think I have read about camber adjusters somewhere but not sure whether it was on the front or not and are they fitted standard or after market.
Thanks
Aussie Dubbin - June 11th, 2011 at 09:06 AM
There is an offcentric camber adjuster on the front end... if your camber is moving maybe the balljoint is screwed or loose. Check the upper trailing
arm. In betwrrn the balljoint and the spindle there should be a large adjusting nut...
vwo60 - June 11th, 2011 at 09:32 AM
The camber concentric are the large concentric bush that is sandwiched between the top ball joint and the stub axel, all ball joint front end's have
them, there is a vertical mark on one of the flats of the hex on the top of the bush and in the standard position it should be face foward, the nut
that holds the assembly together can come loose and allow the concentric to move, you need to check the position of the mark on the hex and tightness
of the nut on the underside of the upper ball joint, if it has moved you can adjust the bush and tighten the nut , also check all the grub screw's
the attach the trailing arms to the torsion bar's and the two central grub screw's the fix the torsion bar's to the front end. if every thing is
tight you could have a bent trailing arm, after all this a wheel alignment is a good idea.
matberry - June 11th, 2011 at 10:23 AM
Ball joint wear is not real obvious unless they are way bad. You need huge multi grips to squeese the top b/j and a big lever to pry the lower b/j.
Also the beam trailing arm bushes are a common problem, they can wear or collapse even.
68AutoBug - June 11th, 2011 at 09:18 PM
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Originally
posted by baghall
Hi
Was wondering if anyone can help with ideas. I have noticed that the front left wheel has developed some negative camber. When I lifted the front to
check the ball joints there was no play. It seems to vary as well as to how much camber there is.
I think I have read about camber adjusters somewhere but not sure whether it was on the front or not and are they fitted standard or after market.
Thanks
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Yes All ball joint beetles have camber adjusters in the TOP suspension arms... they come from the factory with the notch at the front... if they
come loose, they can rotate...
they also should have a large thick flat washer under the locknut... I fitted new [thin] flat washers to mine years ago,
and the nut dished the washer so the adjuster could move about... changing the camber as it went...
Normally, the adjusters are VERY TIGHT....
have been trying to loosen a couple on a spare front end...
YOU can buy aftermarket adjusters with more adjustment than the originals...
If You take the nuts off the TOP ball joints You may be able to move the ball joint by hand to see how loose they are..
they are usually... VERY Hard to move by Hand...'
If they can be moved easily... need to replace them...
Need a 50 tonne press usually to press the old ones out..
unless they have been replaced before... still in tight though..
cheers
LEE
PS: a badly worn Bottom ball joint may do the same thing..
baghall - June 11th, 2011 at 09:29 PM
May look at it on Monday otherwise I will just drop it off at CBB to get it done.
hulbyw - June 11th, 2011 at 09:52 PM
No wish to hijack this thread, however am wondering where I can buy new, quality beam trailing arm bushes. I intend fitting Avis adjusters and don't
really want to use urethane. So I will need new outer needle rollers. And unless anyone can tell me how to fit the Avis adjusters without heat
damaging the inner bushes, I will need these as well.
Cheers...Wayne
vwo60 - June 11th, 2011 at 10:21 PM
i think CB performance is the states have them
matberry - June 11th, 2011 at 10:30 PM
You won't heat damage the inners by welding in adjusters, and you'll need specialised tools to fit them properly, and then finish them to size once
installed
68AutoBug - June 11th, 2011 at 11:59 PM
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Originally
posted by hulbyw
No wish to hijack this thread, however am wondering where I can buy new, quality beam trailing arm bushes. I intend fitting Avis adjusters and don't
really want to use urethane. So I will need new outer needle rollers. And unless anyone can tell me how to fit the Avis adjusters without heat
damaging the inner bushes, I will need these as well.
Cheers...Wayne
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Hi
I'm sure someone will have the AVIS adjusters which are excellent adjusters..
although everyone I know who has them got them from the USA or Canada..
a good welder should be able to tack in the avis adjusters then weld them in slowly so not over heating anything..
What bushes are You talking about??
there are needle roller bearings either ends of the torsion bars
plus rubber seals...
LEE