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window rubbers, can they be stretched?
bajachris88 - July 6th, 2011 at 03:35 PM

Bought a brazilian set of window rubbers 12 months ago, been sitting around till i came to the day of eventually needing them, which was today.

We barely got the windscreen rubber on...

the rear window and both rear quarter rubbers are rediculously tight and too small to fit.

the kit was for a 65-71 beetle, and came from a bag labelled such.

I know i should have bought german, but lets just say the heading of "Premium quality' is widely used regardless, and hence thought it was ok.

I'm a bit down about this. fitting the windows after all these years of them being off was going to be a milestone.

Chris.


h - July 6th, 2011 at 03:56 PM

being winter they are prolly cold n contracted a bit, so maybe leave em in the sun for a few hours n they will be more flexi n will prolly fit up nicely
give that a go before whacking em in a moderate oven for about 30min :crazy:


bajachris88 - July 6th, 2011 at 04:57 PM

:lol:

thanks, will give that a whirl tomorrow. we got one rear quarter done... the rear window is being a real mungrel. we tried some hot & soapy water and many colourful words :D, almost had it... then we called it a day as the bottom popped off. will try again tomorrow.


I guess a tight fit means it will be a good seal i spose :rolleyes:


68AutoBug - July 6th, 2011 at 05:31 PM

They all can be Very hard to fit Chris...

My rear window was terrible./..
My Son hits it with the palm of his hand to push it in..

Windscreen was hard as too...

the rear was a Brasillian rubber... looks great...
been in since 2004..

others were made in the USA... CIP1 rubbers..

LEE


REDKG - July 6th, 2011 at 05:56 PM

agreed, they are meant to be very tight. sit it in the sun for a while


Smiley - July 6th, 2011 at 06:34 PM

Warm them in some (not quite) boiling water and they should soften up a bit.


Smiley :cool:


vw54 - July 6th, 2011 at 06:38 PM

Thats what you get when you buy crap you have explained it perfectly


Gracey - July 6th, 2011 at 06:55 PM

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Originally posted by vw54
Thats what you get when you buy crap you have explained it perfectly



Yeah right!!

I recently installed new side and rear window rubbers on one of my bugs and they were extremely tight, oh yeah they were West Coast Metric rubbers!!!

As others have said warm then up, makes a huge difference.


68AutoBug - July 6th, 2011 at 07:15 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by bajachris88
Bought a brazilian set of window rubbers 12 months ago, been sitting around till i came to the day of eventually needing them, which was today.

We barely got the windscreen rubber on...

the rear window and both rear quarter rubbers are rediculously tight and too small to fit.

the kit was for a 65-71 beetle, and came from a bag labelled such.

I know i should have bought german, but lets just say the heading of "Premium quality' is widely used regardless, and hence thought it was ok.

I'm a bit down about this. fitting the windows after all these years of them being off was going to be a milestone.

Chris.


The rubbers may be incorrect for Your year model Chris

I bought a set of top quality USA made rubbers and the rear one was for a 71> rear window which was too Big

hence the Brasillian rear...

there are many factories in Brasil making these bits so the quality can vary a lot...

My Brasilian door rubbers aren't good quality but I have a new set of USA made ones...

its the luck of the draw... lol

LEE


PS: and many of Us don't have money to burn... lol


waveman1500 - July 6th, 2011 at 08:19 PM

Heat them up, there's nothing wrong with heating rubber seals up prior to fitting. I work at the Holden factory at Elizabeth and they have radiant heat lamps hanging over all kinds of rubber parts on the side of the line to make them easier to fit, everything from door seals to rubber hoses.


zocstar - July 6th, 2011 at 09:05 PM

You can use glass cleaner to lube them up a bit also.


beetleboyjeff - July 6th, 2011 at 10:02 PM

I worked for a window company a number of years ago, and we always had old deep fryers full of hot water (but turned down low so they didn't boil) with a drop of detergent in it to soften the rubbers before glazing aluminium windows.

I have been out on re-glazes where the old rubbers were hard and brittle, but a soak for a few minutes in hot soapy water, and they would be flexible for a few minutes untill they cooled down again.


68AutoBug - July 7th, 2011 at 01:56 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by waveman1500
Heat them up, there's nothing wrong with heating rubber seals up prior to fitting. I work at the Holden factory at Elizabeth and they have radiant heat lamps hanging over all kinds of rubber parts on the side of the line to make them easier to fit, everything from door seals to rubber hoses.


interesting...

the Cruze is looking very good...

LEE


bajachris88 - July 7th, 2011 at 02:40 PM

Thanks guys,

the soapy hot near boiling water soak technique did the job... still was alot of effort... hands hurt so bad.

the windows are now installed :tu:
wipper snipper line for the way :lol:

now to doors.... dam if i can get these door windows and regulators out!


68AutoBug - July 7th, 2011 at 05:01 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by bajachris88
Thanks guys,

the soapy hot near boiling water soak technique did the job... still was alot of effort... hands hurt so bad.

the windows are now installed :tu:
wipper snipper line for the way :lol:

now to doors.... dam if i can get these door windows and regulators out!


Good one Chris

The windows and regulators etc are easy the tenth time You do it...lol

Just keep counting... lol

I have read where many people do actually break the window glass trying to remove it.... lol

LEE