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Bretts 2442 Engine build
matberry - July 17th, 2011 at 01:36 AM

Thought I'd post a few pic's of a very nice engine build that we have underway. We were getting close to having this package ready for Dyno Mania but Brett suffered an accedent the week prior, so it stopped progressing and attention was focused elsewhere. Fortunately he is now home from hospital and on the road to recovery. Hopefully sharing some details will help others with thier projects, and I'd be happy to share info if people have anything they want to know with a build like this.

Preparation is the key.

EVERY part gets inspected and improved, nothing is left as is without being sure every thing will go together correctly on final assembly, especially with some components available these days.

Brett wants torque and longevety so the package evolved to the combo here.

2442 88 x 94, CB LosPanchito heads, CB Quicktune EFI with ITB.

A Scat pro comp ultra light crankshaft with Chev rod and type 4 main journals was chosen due to superior quality and strength. Rods are 4340 Moly H beams. Chinese yes, but reworked to correct dimensions by Crankshaft Engineering and new ARP 2000 bolts fitted. Unfortunately these rods proved to be irregular in length and straightness so the little end pin bushes got replaced to rectify as needed, Craigs work was definately necessary here and elsewhere.

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo199/mattberry-photo/Bretts%202443%20Build/DSCN0843.jpg

The case is cleaned, modified and deburred. Things like oil gallery plugs drilled out and tapped for threaded bungs. A time consuming job, but worth it, I usually find bits of swarf in at least one gallery just waiting to dislodge and end up en a bearing. Machining edges get smoothed and areas are modified for improved oiling.

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo199/mattberry-photo/Bretts%202443%20Build/DSCN0835.jpg

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Heads are another important area of rework.
A multi angle valve job is important for any engine to make the most of available power. Even heads sold with a 3 angle valve job are only just that, this gets reworked as with the combustion chambers and ports.

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo199/mattberry-photo/Bretts%202443%20Build/DSCN0831.jpg

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HappyDaze - July 17th, 2011 at 09:25 AM

What a pity to have to 'hide' all that work and those beaut bits, when you put it all together! Still, the sounds and performance will make up for it.:yes:


waltermitty - July 17th, 2011 at 10:25 AM

Nice work there Matt.
can you explain why
"oil gallery plugs drilled out and tapped for threaded bungs."
Mitchell


matberry - July 17th, 2011 at 11:13 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by waltermitty
Nice work there Matt.
can you explain why
"oil gallery plugs drilled out and tapped for threaded bungs."
Mitchell


It's a two edge sword, the ally plugs can leak and even come out, in a type 4 block this is relatively common, and in the new aluminium cases I often find metal shavings from the plugs installation behind them. Also it provides access for proper cleaning with a brush, all the way through the oil gallery.

The pic above is blocking the oil gallery that the oil pump used std, but with full flow, it's best to be blocked to reduce chance of oil pressure loss, the pump also has a bung as often the pump body is slightly small in the case so blocking the case and the pump, there is no chance of oil pressure loss.

This pic shows two galleries plugged.

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo199/mattberry-photo/Bretts%202443%20Build/DSCN0860.jpg


Sorry for blurry pic
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo199/mattberry-photo/Bretts%202443%20Build/DSCN0838.jpg


Here the case and bearing oil holes are misaligned and so modified with a die grinder.

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo199/mattberry-photo/Bretts%202443%20Build/DSCN0839.jpg


Governor - July 17th, 2011 at 11:35 AM

Looking at this post it's a bit dejavu?
Did you and B4 go to the same school?
You would not believe what actually goes into a "proper" engine build.
Nice work Matt


matberry - July 17th, 2011 at 03:30 PM

Thanks BlackFella, B4 and I have the same God/beliefs..... whatever.......you know. It's just where are you prepared to draw the line.

Some things are just plain necessary, like the next pic, without clearancing the camshaft, an 88mm throw just doesn't fit :lol:

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo199/mattberry-photo/Bretts%202443%20Build/DSCN0841.jpg

Here is a reworked AA Chinlee forged racing piston....yeah whatever, the std AA's are in the round filing cabnet. We have put a 500G finish hone to the cylinders, coated the exterior with black ceramic heat dispersant, and the pistons have been machined for a tight deck, but relieved at the chamber to give us a CR that we wanted, then ceramic coated tops and dry film lubricant the skirts all by Competition Coatings.

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo199/mattberry-photo/Bretts%202443%20Build/DSCN0853.jpg


13bwagon - July 17th, 2011 at 07:00 PM

WET DREAMS :dork:
great work!


matberry - July 17th, 2011 at 07:22 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 13bwagon
WET DREAMS :dork:
great work!
Cheers dude .... but keep it in your pants hey, well at least make sure your web cam is OFF !!:lol:

Baby cam this, but she'll idle like a watch :)

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo199/mattberry-photo/Bretts%202443%20Build/DSCN0842.jpg

Not everyday you get to play with such NICE bits :)

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Ooooooohh yeah, all in the details :)

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo199/mattberry-photo/Bretts%202443%20Build/DSCN0856.jpg


This one is going with the digital/programable distributer

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo199/mattberry-photo/Bretts%202443%20Build/DSCN0852.jpg


Smiley - July 17th, 2011 at 08:02 PM

That is the sexiest thing I have ever seen (a side from the engine now sitting in the garage of course :D)

More pictures and more detail!!!
I don't know about everyone else but the more you can put up and share and teach, the more I'm going to learn.

Thanks for sharing.



Smiley :D


vassy66T1 - July 17th, 2011 at 08:21 PM

Great to see Brett's engine moving along nicely.
I look forward to the tinware shots after the amount of time Brett spent getting it to fit nicely.


matberry - July 17th, 2011 at 08:59 PM

Cheers dudes....

patience Marcus, patience

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo199/mattberry-photo/Bretts%202443%20Build/DSCN0859.jpg


Match ported manifolds

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo199/mattberry-photo/Bretts%202443%20Build/DSCN0863.jpg

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Here's some tin that we make from s/s sheet. The new heads don't come with these, they are important IMO so make sure stock ones or hand made ones are fitted.

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo199/mattberry-photo/Bretts%202443%20Build/DSCN0862.jpg

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo199/mattberry-photo/Bretts%202443%20Build/DSCN0861.jpg

Like the barrel covers that don't come with these little air splitters, again, I think, NECESSARY !!!

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo199/mattberry-photo/Bretts%202443%20Build/DSCN0918.jpg

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Here's the lower tinware we make, it shields the exhaust heat from the pushrod tubes but still allows plenty of air flow

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo199/mattberry-photo/Bretts%202443%20Build/DSCN0923.jpg


These fill panels give the barrel covers the metalica look, but more importantly seal the air in.

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo199/mattberry-photo/Bretts%202443%20Build/DSCN0915.jpg

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Craig Torrens - July 17th, 2011 at 10:05 PM

Looking good..........although it would be interesting to hand crank an EFI motor !


matberry - July 17th, 2011 at 10:09 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Craig Torrens
Looking good..........although it would be interesting to hand crank an EFI motor !


Thanks mate

Best of both worlds eh? :)


Governor - July 17th, 2011 at 10:50 PM

Again scary as B4 made the same ally plates to separate the exhaust from the pushrod tubes on all the engines he builds?


matberry - July 17th, 2011 at 11:10 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Black64
Again scary as B4 made the same ally plates to separate the exhaust from the pushrod tubes on all the engines he builds?


:)


Quote:
Originally posted by Black64
You would not believe what actually goes into a "proper" engine build.

mmmm, I might ;)


Not to mention the countless things you don't see....drilling and filing the cooling slots in the head to promote air flow, individually clearancing every head stud to barrel location, blueprinting the oil pump cover........:love::love: :dork: :lol:


hellbugged - July 18th, 2011 at 06:32 AM

:tu:...I know first hand the time and effort that goes into taking the pics then loading, hosting and arranging them into a thread like this matty....so thankyou for making that effort so we can check this cool shite out

Nice looking chambers and porting, not to mention the rest of the detail work

Top stuff!


smithy68 - July 18th, 2011 at 04:11 PM

What sought of money would this build set someone back?


LOWBUG - July 18th, 2011 at 08:18 PM

Did you say chineese rods? is this just a cruiser?


matberry - July 18th, 2011 at 09:25 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by smithy68
What sought of money would this build set someone back?


Mmmm... difficult question to answer, as most of these projects develop to become the best I can provide for a given time frame and budget. Most clients change thier ideas as the engine develops. Even this engine had changes that definately were'nt expected but need to be rectified as the components show thier true coloursb, so they tend to be quite organic until the final package is sorted. Also installation and primary run-in are an important part to be considered. Carbs or efi makes a huge difference to installation costs as well. It's a quality verses price ratio that is up to the owner, but in the engine photographed here, there is over $3000 in labour + parts.

Quote:
Originally posted by LOWBUG
Did you say chineese rods? is this just a cruiser?


Yes mate, definately just a cruiser, with lots of torque and smooth fat power curve. Max rpm will be governed by the auto trans and we expect shift to be no higher than 5500rpm.

Tiny cam and Los Panchitos heads, but they will have a high port velocity to work with the low duration cam that is needed for a clean manifold vacuum signal for the full type 3 auto.


matberry - July 18th, 2011 at 10:15 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by hellbugged
:tu:...I know first hand the time and effort that goes into taking the pics then loading, hosting and arranging them into a thread like this matty....so thankyou for making that effort so we can check this cool shite out

Nice looking chambers and porting, not to mention the rest of the detail work

Top stuff!


Thanks Daimo....your a hard act to follow dude, your stuff is always inspirational...(except maybe your door resto......BORING :) ) :lol:


mactaylor - July 19th, 2011 at 08:28 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by matberry
Quote:
Originally posted by hellbugged
:tu:...I know first hand the time and effort that goes into taking the pics then loading, hosting and arranging them into a thread like this matty....so thankyou for making that effort so we can check this cool shite out

Nice looking chambers and porting, not to mention the rest of the detail work

Top stuff!


Thanks Daimo....your a hard act to follow dude, your stuff is always inspirational...(except maybe your door resto......BORING :) ) :lol:

the door thing wasnt the most entertaining post daimo has put up had to do a line of lou just to stop my eyes from closing!:lol:


beetleboyjeff - July 19th, 2011 at 07:13 PM

Windows are usually a pane though.


hellbugged - July 19th, 2011 at 07:30 PM

yeah Mac, i needed some as i wrote it up, don't worry. :dork:............only adding those bit's to the thread so buyer can see what they are purchasing


Paulc1964au - July 19th, 2011 at 07:38 PM

excellent thread and very informative this week here in aussieveedubbers must be engine week :)

Mat $3000 for labour + parts seems very reasonable so im assuming parts around $6K


mactaylor - July 19th, 2011 at 09:27 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by hellbugged
yeah Mac, i needed some as i wrote it up, don't worry. :dork:............only adding those bit's to the thread so buyer can see what they are purchasing

obviously no running gear!!!!!please, unless the coin is great!