Hi Guys,
I know this has been addressed a little in the past on this forum, but I am in need of some further clarification.
My 70 Beetle had the old original latching relay, but the plunger part is rusted away. I then ordered a new one, and I assume it is right as it seems
to be the only one that anyone offers (and it is stated as being the right replacement).
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Thanks Joel. Back to the Auto Electrician on Friday as there is a couple of other little issues too. We shall see how that goes. Hopefully we will
get it all working as it should.
Cheers..
f that doesn't fix it I think I may have another relay similar to the original unit.PM if stuck Cheers les
Okay, so is there some trick I am missing or something with the newer relays?
The old one works fine when plugged in and everything functions as it should apart from the plunger being absent so it does not latch the switch. If
you latch it manually the high beams work fine.
When I (or the auto electrician) plug in one of the new ones using the terminal matchings as Joel indicated.....nothing happens. We can not get one
of the new types of relays to SWITCH at all. Is something else needed? Is there a trick or some black magic ritual I need to perform?
Right now we are all stumped. 
Make sure the high beam switch is actually working properly and grounding the relay when you pull the lever.
Thanks Joel. I do believe it was grounding the old relay properly. The old one was switching, just had no plunger to flick the latch. I will check
again though. 
I thought the troubles I had with getting this thing to start were frustrating. I am now feeling that they were nothing compared to this....as this
should be fairly simple.....or so I though.
I have found that over the years....
no auto electrician can work out VW s wiring systems...
so, its better to work it out Yourself... if You can
best of LUck
:LEE
Are you sure it's not a dud relay out of the box?
stick 12volts on 30 and ground S and make sure it pulls in.
As Lee said alot of auto electricians have trouble with VWs and the high beam uses a latching relay setup unlike most other cars which have a multi
position stalk instead.
If it is a dud, then i have managed to buy two faulty ones. One from cip and one from CVD. Neither want to work.
Both the auto elect (who seemed to know what he was doing) and myself could not get the new one to switch in the car or out. I will try again today
("stick 12volts on 30 and ground S and make sure it pulls in.") or tomorrow though.
That is the right relay to replace the old latching style though isn't it?
For the record, if anyone is ever having issues installing one of the new style VW Beetle highbeam switching relays (Part No. 111-941-583), that
replace the old latching ones....I found this;
http://www.oldvolkshome.com/headrelay.pdf
It would appear that you do not connect the red constant power wire to terminal 30 on the relay as with the old ones. Now you make a bridge wire to
run from terminal 56 (headlight switch) to terminal 30 and power is received that way.
I am no auto electrician, so do not ask me. I just found the above pdf when searching online. And, I have now tried it on my bug. It worked first
go. I have low beam, high beam, and my driving lights which I thought also had issues, now work too.
I am a happy camper....
Thanks again for all the help guys, and hopefully this may help others too.
Cheers...
Great News Stig
do You use another relay for Your driving lights?
cheers
LEE
Yes Lee, there is another relay in there.
The bug had them already installed when I bought it. They were done right though. There is an on/off switch on the dash and they are wired into the
high beam on the headlights.
The relay on the driving lights is a louder one though....you can really hear it click when they are turned on...lol
that is good then..
the louder relay may be mounted somewhere where it transmits sound..
some relays have a metal case with a bracket attached
some relays have a plastic case with metal bracket and
others are all plastic case and bracket
cheers
Lee
Glad to hear that you got it working,I do have a new unit and a couple of used ones if you are chasing one in the future. Cheers Les
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