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What do I need to add to this motor?
glenroy - December 28th, 2011 at 05:55 PM

Hello all. I'm getting close to getting the 1970 beetle rego'd but I'm not sure what I need to add to the motor. Below are a couple of shots I took so you may be able to help tell me what cooling tins or whatever I may need to get? Thanks everyone for all your help.

http://www.cooyal.com/vw/motor.jpg
http://www.cooyal.com/vw/DSC02123.JPG
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norbert - December 28th, 2011 at 06:07 PM

Rear apron, heater hoses attached to the shroud, would definitely move the fuel filter and maybe get braided hoses (common to have engine fires) or get good insurance, could not see the regulator (attached to the alternator) and probably mounted somewhere behind the fan shroud but just check, not sure if you checked the points but would have a look but if engine runs OK than probably OK.


1303Steve - December 28th, 2011 at 07:08 PM

Hi

The generator is mounted 90 degrees out, the terminals should point of the the right side of the car and the earth screw should be at the top.

Steve


Doug Sweetman - December 29th, 2011 at 12:00 AM

The plastic fuel filters work great, but perish / age rapidly in a hot engine bay - and ultimately crack resulting in fuel fires and general nastiness..... Burns about as many bugs as battery fires does. Try putting it under the car just after here the hard fuel line exits the chassis.


Sides - December 29th, 2011 at 07:35 AM

As others have said - rear engine tin (breast plate), heater hoses (connect from fan shroud each side to those holes down near exhaust), ditch plastic fuel filler, turn generator around 90 deg clockwise.

Also carby looks pretty grotty... check that there's no fuel leaks around it, and give it a good wipe over with a rag before getting your rego check done.

Finally... Mudgee get's pretty cold in winter, yeah ??? Should be a hose running from the bottom inlet of the air cleaner (yellow thing) down to below the engine... it's known as a warm air intake, and is there to help engine run nicely in colder weather.

:tu:

Oh and Norbert - with 12V genny normally have the regulator mounted under the back seat, opposite to the battery... but definitely check it's bolted down nice, and insulation is all good !!!


matberry - December 29th, 2011 at 07:40 AM

I hope no-one's been driving it like that....the engine will be toast.

The main piece of tin missing is the rear breast plate, but the pulley tin appears cut to install a full flow oil fitting into the case, so it should probably should be replaced too. No holes should be left anywhere in the tinware, to effectively seal the air out of the engine bay. That way the cooling fan will draw in only cool air from under the rear window, instead of hot air from under the engine that has already cooled the engine once.
Heater pipes could get blocked or hoses fitted preferebly if the heater boxes are fitted to the exhaust as air flow helps cool the heater box itself.
Generator has a regolator mounted under the rear seat in a later model bug like this.
Fuel filter....well new hoses would be recommended, use the correct 5mm size, so VW line is best IMO.


norbert - December 29th, 2011 at 08:24 AM

Did not realise about the regulator positioning. Is that a better place to mount it. Was going to mount my battery and regulator in the engine bay as many people do. After thinking about it heat would probably affect the battery but should not make a huge difference to the regulator.


Joel - December 29th, 2011 at 08:53 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Sides
Should be a hose running from the bottom inlet of the air cleaner (yellow thing) down to below the engine... it's known as a warm air intake, and is there to help engine run nicely in colder weather.


It's not gonna do anything other than look pretty.

The 1500 preheat flaps ones like this ran off a cable connected to the thermostat flaps.

The operating cable is missing, as is the stove pipe connected to the head and also I bet this engine is missing a working thermostat.


Sides - December 29th, 2011 at 09:27 AM

Norbert - Ghia's are different than bugs... not as much room in the engine bay ya see. I'm gonna keep my Ghia engine bay layout standard - don't think that heat will really be such an issue.

:tu:

Joel - good point - didn't look closely enough to see the cable wasn't there - doh ! As well as being pretty, the warm air intake hose would at least block one of the holes in the breast plate I guess !!!

:lol:


Sides - December 29th, 2011 at 09:32 AM

Oh - one more for ya glenroy.

The rain catcher (black thing on the underside of the engine lid)... later bugs never had them, so while 1970's had 'em standard they're kinda optional.

I've tried both ways and found she ran cooler with the rain catcher removed, and never had any issue with the amount of rain that came through the vents.

Not an issue for rego of course, but something can play around with later maybe.

:tu:


glenroy - December 29th, 2011 at 10:36 AM

Thanks everyone for the quick responses. That's why I love this forum. Yes, I'll be doing all suggestions as above especially the petrol filter. Thanks again.