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thinking about buying a car but has been sitting for 10 years
jamiesc - January 16th, 2012 at 04:05 PM

just wondering im thinking of buying a kombi of a friends dad but it has been sitting in the same place for as long as i can remember it has a blown engine

the question is if i was to buy it would i have to buy new wheel bearings and grease up everything up again and how much would a second hand engine cost me

any help much appreciated cheers jamie


gordysbeetle - January 16th, 2012 at 04:37 PM

My beetle had been sitting for 16 years. All the wheel bearings were as good as new, just the seals had gone hard. Seals are only about $4 each. Engines ? You get what you pay for. Regards Gordon


helbus - January 16th, 2012 at 05:05 PM

If it has been sitting for ten years, you would be wise to at least check, regrease and adjust all wheel bearings, and change brake fluid and check and adjust all brakes. Then check and grease the steering and suspension.

Drain fuel tank, new battery.

Is the engine a 1600? if so you should be able to get a minor rebuild on the engine if it just needs heads, barrels and pistons.

If it is a Type4 engine 1700, 1800, 2000, then you will be up for thousands on a rebuild, or $1000 for a reasonable second hand engine. I sold our 1800 engine out of our bus for $1500.


jamiesc - January 16th, 2012 at 05:37 PM

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Originally posted by helbus
If it has been sitting for ten years, you would be wise to at least check, regrease and adjust all wheel bearings, and change brake fluid and check and adjust all brakes. Then check and grease the steering and suspension.

Drain fuel tank, new battery.

Is the engine a 1600? if so you should be able to get a minor rebuild on the engine if it just needs heads, barrels and pistons.

If it is a Type4 engine 1700, 1800, 2000, then you will be up for thousands on a rebuild, or $1000 for a reasonable second hand engine. I sold our 1800 engine out of our bus for $1500.


thanks hellbus would it be easier to get this done my a vw mechanic or myself cause i was just gonna buy it and lower it with some brm style rim cause the patina on it looks great just want it for my daily driver instead of the oval

are they as rough as beetles to drive of more comftable to drive


SuperOwen - January 16th, 2012 at 05:37 PM

Depends where it has been sitting as well, if it has been somewhere dry and undercover it shouldnt deteriorate too much.


jamiesc - January 16th, 2012 at 05:38 PM

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Originally posted by SuperOwen
Depends where it has been sitting as well, if it has been somewhere dry and undercover it shouldnt deteriorate too much.

its been sitting in the yard out in the weather but it appears to be not that much rust on it


greedy53 - January 16th, 2012 at 05:51 PM

my kombi sat for 12 years and i did as above cleaned and re grease and don't forget the fuel it will smell like crap or wont smell at all eather is death for a engine


Klaus - January 16th, 2012 at 06:01 PM

I'd replace all brakes inc flex lines booster line (depending year) calipers , master cyl , cv boots , shocks , tyres ,check n repack or replace bearings n seals , put $2 grand aside to cover this as you will always find something else like batt and headlights , lenses to replace. .. list goes on and on... $$$.. but worth it ..busses kick ass ..carry more crap ,sleep in it .look sweet lowered and handle pretty good for a building


jamiesc - January 16th, 2012 at 06:33 PM

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Originally posted by Klaus
I'd replace all brakes inc flex lines booster line (depending year) calipers , master cyl , cv boots , shocks , tyres ,check n repack or replace bearings n seals , put $2 grand aside to cover this as you will always find something else like batt and headlights , lenses to replace. .. list goes on and on... $$$.. but worth it ..busses kick ass ..carry more crap ,sleep in it .look sweet lowered and handle pretty good for a building


the whole car isnt missing any parts so thats a good thing so im looking about 5 grand with the car befor it hits the road i may have to think about this but he also has another one i might just try to buy bother of them cause there other one has a good engine just needs the back right corner fixed up cause its been hit there

btw i like your user name klaus very smiler to my last name :blush:


helbus - January 16th, 2012 at 06:45 PM

What year bus is the one that has been sitting? Does it have seats in the back? What motor is it?


Klaus - January 16th, 2012 at 07:02 PM

that would be my first name :) ..and yeah what year is it... lowlight = good choice , late bay dont bother ha ha


jamiesc - January 16th, 2012 at 07:03 PM

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Originally posted by helbus
What year bus is the one that has been sitting? Does it have seats in the back? What motor is it?


im not too sure of the year its a bay window and an 8 seater and has a 2 litre hes asking $2500 but will try and knock the price down


helbus - January 16th, 2012 at 07:18 PM

8 seater 2 litre. It would be late 70's. Should have 2 litre gearbox too.

In my opinion a perfect bus to put a Subaru motor in. Already has a strong box and disc brakes etc. I put a Suby EJ22 in our bus, and being a later bus, the engineer signed it off easily, as it already had 2 speed wipers, 2 speed demister, dual circuit boosted disc brakes etc.

Check my build thread here

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=38417&page=1 


jamiesc - January 16th, 2012 at 07:26 PM

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Originally posted by helbus
8 seater 2 litre. It would be late 70's. Should have 2 litre gearbox too.

In my opinion a perfect bus to put a Subaru motor in. Already has a strong box and disc brakes etc. I put a Suby EJ22 in our bus, and being a later bus, the engineer signed it off easily, as it already had 2 speed wipers, 2 speed demister, dual circuit boosted disc brakes etc.

Check my build thread here

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=38417&page=1 


i also thought about that but im still on my p plates so its the only thing stopping me from doing a engine transplant by law im not ment to even have a roll cage cause p platers in queensland are not allowed any mod plates


helbus - January 16th, 2012 at 07:30 PM

Do you already have a daily driver car? How much longer left on your P's? Maybe you could do the engine conversion over that time, and then as soon as you are off your P's you will have it finished, engineer mod plated and rego ready to go.


jamiesc - January 16th, 2012 at 07:42 PM

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Originally posted by helbus
Do you already have a daily driver car? How much longer left on your P's? Maybe you could do the engine conversion over that time, and then as soon as you are off your P's you will have it finished, engineer mod plated and rego ready to go.


yeah i have a car that i drive prett much all the time a 1816 oval but just kinda looking for something thats more suitable for a daily driver and cheaper on fuel

and i wanted to fix up the my oval and cut out the lil bit of rust and a new paint job and new interior

i think i have one 6 months on my green p plates but i have a feeling its longer then and yeah i also thought of that helbus

and how hard was it todo the conversion and was it costly?


helbus - January 16th, 2012 at 08:13 PM

The build thread has all the details. I can say it was not hard, but that does not mean someone else will find it easy. You would be wise to budget $7000 to do the conversion using a non turbo engine, about $1000 more if doing turbo, because you have to consider the extra exhaust work etc.

Our twin carb 1800 VW engine and the Subaru EJ22 use about the same amount of fuel, but changed from 80hp VW to 135hp Suby.


jamiesc - January 16th, 2012 at 10:09 PM

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Originally posted by helbus
The build thread has all the details. I can say it was not hard, but that does not mean someone else will find it easy. You would be wise to budget $7000 to do the conversion using a non turbo engine, about $1000 more if doing turbo, because you have to consider the extra exhaust work etc.

Our twin carb 1800 VW engine and the Subaru EJ22 use about the same amount of fuel, but changed from 80hp VW to 135hp Suby.


wow thats a fair chunk of change but the skys the limit i might just stick with a stock engine if i do get it but i also want it so i can just pack up the rods and drinks with a mattress in the back and just go away for the weekend if you no what i mean


h - January 17th, 2012 at 10:20 AM

yeah it wouldn't be any good at all after sitting for 10 yrs
so best give me the details n I won't tell anybody about it :D


jamiesc - January 17th, 2012 at 03:43 PM

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Originally posted by h
yeah it wouldn't be any good at all after sitting for 10 yrs
so best give me the details n I won't tell anybody about it :D


haha nice try h but na i think ill get this and save her from going to grave yard in future years :)