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golf springs for a super?
Arpspasm - January 28th, 2012 at 04:24 PM

I came across a reference somewhere recently about using a set of golf (rabbit) rear springs for the front struts on a super to add a bit of stiffness. I cannot find the page where I had read it, would anyone know what year and model golf suits?
Cheers, Dan

SebastienPeek - January 29th, 2012 at 12:48 AM

Found it.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4436332#4436332 

Arpspasm - January 29th, 2012 at 01:30 AM

yeah that was the one Sebastian. Must remember to bookmark ,y late night google discoveries :lol:

SebastienPeek - January 29th, 2012 at 01:39 AM

Ahaha no dramas!

I knew I'd seen it somewhere too, found it by chance and then remembered you were asking for it so I quickly put it up; hope it helps!

1303Steve - January 29th, 2012 at 08:12 AM

Hi

I saw somebody using Honda Civic springs somewhere on the web.

Steve

Arpspasm - January 29th, 2012 at 09:57 AM

Thanks Steve, looks like the honda civic springs lower the front end a little which is not what I am after though :)

Actually someone asked recently about a cheap way to lower a beetle.

Joel - January 29th, 2012 at 10:06 AM

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Originally posted by 1303Steve
Hi

I saw somebody using Honda Civic springs somewhere on the web.

Steve


Yep works well, EF Civic hatch/CRX rear springs.

The upper rubber spring holder sits nicely inside the lower superbug spring perch and the lower Honda one welds to the upper VW one.

Did that years ago but with Suzuki ones.

If you're gonna be firming up the spring rate would be smart to add a strut brace, as the stiffening the front will transfer alot more shock to the strut towers which are pretty pissweak by design from the factory.

Arpspasm - January 29th, 2012 at 10:13 AM

thanks Joel already made myself a strutt brace though I think I will reinforce it by tying it into the body to pan bolts in the framehead as well. Out of curiosity if I raised the front could I change the control arms (not sure if thats what they are called? they attach from the framehead to the bottom of the strut) with some slightly longer and sturdier ones to retain the correct geometry?

Joel - January 29th, 2012 at 10:18 AM

Possibly, the later 2 bolt ones are steel so could be lengthened but the ealry 3 bolt ones are cast.

Easier fix would be a get a camber plus kit from Topline, they add a few extra degrees for lowering but also work the same way for lifting.

Arpspasm - January 29th, 2012 at 11:14 AM

Yeah they do look like the easy fix though I may need to just scrub some tyres out while I save for them. I thought maybe I could make them a bit beefier as well with a steel sleeve or something.

Arpspasm - February 3rd, 2012 at 08:29 AM

I had a thought (possibly a slightly dodgy one :) ) Joel you mention that you made your strut brace adjustable if I sturdied up my brace and added a turnbuckle or something for the adjustment would pulling the towers in a couple of centimeters cancel out the added shock height?

vlad01 - February 3rd, 2012 at 11:13 AM

K-mac sell super adjustable strut tops and bits like that. top of the range quality though so be ready to empty you wallet :D

http://www.k-mac.com/pages/newprods/vw/vw.htm 

Arpspasm - February 3rd, 2012 at 11:26 AM

OUCH your right about the emptying your wallet bit. That is what i was hoping to avoid with my dodgy home solution of cranking in the strut towers :no: there are to many other things that the beetle needs before I worry that much about camber issues

Joel - February 3rd, 2012 at 08:31 PM

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Originally posted by Arpspasm
I had a thought (possibly a slightly dodgy one :) ) Joel you mention that you made your strut brace adjustable if I sturdied up my brace and added a turnbuckle or something for the adjustment would pulling the towers in a couple of centimeters cancel out the added shock height?


Got any pics of how you made your strut brace?

You could use a turn buckle but you would want a fairly decent size one and also good quality so there is absolutley no flex in it otherwise it defeats the purpose.
You don't want or need too much movement of the towers though it will only weaken the metal.

I've made mine adjustable by having threaded rods that attach by nuts to the plates on each strut tower so they can pull the towers in or push them out.

This is bout the only pic handy I have

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/Vbug74/Picture002.jpg

Arpspasm - February 3rd, 2012 at 08:46 PM

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Originally posted by Joel

Got any pics of how you made your strut brace?

You could use a turn buckle but you would want a fairly decent size one and also good quality so there is absolutley no flex in it otherwise it defeats the purpose.
You don't want or need too much movement of the towers though it will only weaken the metal.

I've made mine adjustable by having threaded rods that attach by nuts to the plates on each strut tower so they can pull the towers in or push them out.



Will post some pics up when I'm finished at the moment the brace looks a fair bit shabbier than yours. By turnbuckle I meant welding up a turnbuclke like device with 20mm threaded rod and big nuts in the centre of the brace though I like your design I may have to steal it :ninja: I think your design would be less prone to flexion than a centre adjustment.