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fitting Wilwood disc brakes to lowlight bus
binner - February 1st, 2012 at 09:33 PM

As the title states, has anyone done this conversion on the rear of their bus?... or something similar

just came across this http://there.dino.com/harold/bus0.php 

and the rotors http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/search/?searchType=global&N=0&Ntt=1...

vwo60 - February 2nd, 2012 at 08:24 AM

If the caliper has no dust boots on the pistons it will be hard to do the swap legally, as far as i know it is best to use a set of proprity calipers from a car that has been covered by the ADR'S in Australia.

Bizarre - February 2nd, 2012 at 08:47 AM

pleaase correct me - but I didnt think Wilwod was approved here

vlad01 - February 2nd, 2012 at 10:59 AM

I have talked to many people about this including VWCOOL, aparently its not aproved even with dust boots.

ADR for ya :no::td:

binner - February 2nd, 2012 at 11:18 AM

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Originally posted by vwo60
If the caliper has no dust boots on the pistons it will be hard to do the swap legally, as far as i know it is best to use a set of proprity calipers from a car that has been covered by the ADR'S in Australia.

They do make a model with a dust boot too. I'm still doing research at the moment, but this got my attention.
Lets say "Yay" for ADR....fuurk

psimitar - February 8th, 2012 at 11:51 PM

Don't see why Wilwood or Brembo or AP aren't legal. Any engineer worth his money can approve a brake conversion. Really can't see why this won't surpass ADR by miles. ADR are the stupidest vehicle rules in the world as it's been written by retards that don't have a brain. Maybe Oz should adopt German TUV regs for something that is properly thought out!!!!

Fed up of the ADR as you may notice :)

vwo60 - February 9th, 2012 at 06:26 AM

You can achive plenty if you work withinn the rules, if the brembo calipers came on a complianced vehicle you can use them, plenty of good quality calipers available

bussboy - February 9th, 2012 at 06:55 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by psimitar
Don't see why Wilwood or Brembo or AP aren't legal. Any engineer worth his money can approve a brake conversion. Really can't see why this won't surpass ADR by miles. ADR are the stupidest vehicle rules in the world as it's been written by retards that don't have a brain. Maybe Oz should adopt German TUV regs for something that is properly thought out!!!!

Fed up of the ADR as you may notice :)


As was stated earlier most Wilwood we see in this country
dont have a dust boot so crap can get into the bore and all of a sudden you have leaks and possibly brake failure, leading to an accident and when the insurance company see's the calipers then no insurance. Dust boots serve a purpose. Wilwood didnt make street calipers they made race application where pad changes are needed to be done quickly so no seals.
As we can see they do a caliper with a dust seal so your engineer should pass this if not find a local caliper that has the ADR needed and use that.
Just my 5 cents.

psimitar - February 9th, 2012 at 08:03 AM

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Originally posted by bussboy
Quote:
Originally posted by psimitar
Don't see why Wilwood or Brembo or AP aren't legal. Any engineer worth his money can approve a brake conversion. Really can't see why this won't surpass ADR by miles. ADR are the stupidest vehicle rules in the world as it's been written by retards that don't have a brain. Maybe Oz should adopt German TUV regs for something that is properly thought out!!!!

Fed up of the ADR as you may notice :)


As was stated earlier most Wilwood we see in this country
dont have a dust boot so crap can get into the bore and all of a sudden you have leaks and possibly brake failure, leading to an accident and when the insurance company see's the calipers then no insurance. Dust boots serve a purpose. Wilwood didnt make street calipers they made race application where pad changes are needed to be done quickly so no seals.
As we can see they do a caliper with a dust seal so your engineer should pass this if not find a local caliper that has the ADR needed and use that.
Just my 5 cents.


Obviously I meant their sealed version as no country allows unsealed calipers for road use.

Check out Porsche 924 and 944 calipers but buy them in the USA or UK as Oz prices are retardedly high, if you could even find some. Even my Gold VR6 calipers where half price with shipping compared to Oz scrappies.

Klaus - February 9th, 2012 at 02:41 PM

handbrake ? , try mazda series 4 or hilux or range rover or good old volvo cast 4 piston ..hsv??

binner - February 12th, 2012 at 09:17 PM

^^^^^^^^^^ yeah but a line lock would be nice to have, If you know what I mean :smilegrin:

BTW, I'm beginning to love http://www.jegs.com 

cam070 - February 12th, 2012 at 10:01 PM

You could speak to George at classic. He had wilwood copies there the other week. Pretty cheap, but I can't vouch for quality.

psimitar - February 12th, 2012 at 11:45 PM

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Originally posted by cam070
You could speak to George at classic. He had wilwood copies there the other week. Pretty cheap, but I can't vouch for quality.


Ah George. The guy who don't answer email price enquiries cos he don't put em on the website.

binner - February 13th, 2012 at 11:12 AM

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Originally posted by cam070
You could speak to George at classic. He had wilwood copies there the other week. Pretty cheap, but I can't vouch for quality.



For brakes I think I will go with wilwood, cheap is not good for brakes ;)

coletrickle - February 13th, 2012 at 12:44 PM

Just read your thread binner,You haven't mentioned why you want discs?have you experiencd brake fade?failure?and under what circumstances?I'm wondering are you looking for improved braking or are you wanting it to sound good in a magazine.From my limmited experence half the cool stuff ruins what makes your VW a VW!For example How does the Hand brake assy hook up to the wilwoods?You might try having a chat with some people who have done a lot of towing with their kombis,Boris,The Pells,Wayne Penrose ,Matt berry and countless others that have done a lot of towing with disc and drum kombis.

binner - February 13th, 2012 at 08:15 PM

^^^ I don't wan't to be in a magazine, this isn't going to be a show ute it's going to serve as a family tourer/travel/camp vehicle. Discs are there for helping me pull up when I'm towing. I want to keep the front brakes stock but beef up the rear for when I'm towing, hence looking at rear discs.
Line loc isn't a solution as I don't want the loc on for a long period so I need to think more about.
Just found out John Sherman does a conversion kit that may suit. I don't see a problem with updating parts or reworking parts to function better on VW's , I see it goes on quiet a bit these days....

psimitar - February 13th, 2012 at 08:25 PM

Shermans gear ain't well engineered so don't bother.

For towing you'll need a biasing valve on the rears that self bias' depending on weight on the back. Just like utes and panel vans. If you don't then under non-towing conditions you may well find the rears locking up before the fronts and that is dangerous and not allowed by the ADR. You can also get cabin adjustable bias valves but dunno if ADR allow this?

binner - February 13th, 2012 at 08:55 PM

^^^ yeah ,was looking at the cabin bias route but I see ADR is really tight on a few things. I'm glad I'm sorting this out now rather than waiting till I'm closer to the time when I'm ready to fit....:crazy:

I love living by many rules... :no:

am I allowed to fit a door popper on the cab door? :lol:

barls - February 13th, 2012 at 09:44 PM

have a chat to richard at vforce.. i know he has a disc brake set up for sale.