Hi All

See below a picture of my pulley; I'm not sure what the timing marks are, as all my manuals (including the original owners manual!) and on-line review are saying that it's a 2 mark pulley with 7.5 & 10 BTDC marked on.

But what's throwing me is the dimple on the outer rim; which lines up with the left hand notch & this dimple also lines up 180 degrees with the other timing mark.

I've normally set my timing on the left mark (as per the books) but if the left mark is infact TDC (not 7.5 BTDC) then what is the right hand one?

The engine is a 1300 F series motor - from an Aussie '67 Deluxe.



Does anyone else out there have this pulley? I've not been able to find a picutre of a similar one online (the samba, shoptalk, and here).

Cheers

Shaun

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=787INwvir24 

Yeah it's 7.5 and 10
.....another 30mm around the circumference from the 10' mark will give you the point for 30 degrees ( use one of those student flexible rulers)

The other one, pretend it's not there

Thanks Daimo;
I can dial in the 019 Dizzy now with some certainty!

Cool yeah, ya vids of the lil 1300cc are pretty cool

I would dial in 30 degrees total and wherever idles sits, let it be..... Even 32' total if it has a flat spot and run 98 octane

You heading to the nationals?

Daimo,

I won't be at the nationals, as much as I want to be! My brother has decided he wants his wedding that weekend

Joel,

180 degrees around the pulley from the dimple is a notch on the inside of the pulley which is directly opposite the left hand notch and dimple.
Yeah it looks like an add on from someone else, as I can't find any documentation that says my pulley had a TDC mark; and it appears the valves are adjusted off the 7.5deg mark (left notch) all my manuals are backing this up (bentley & VW circa '67)

Has anyone used a advance function timing light?

I used mine for the first time today I set it to 29 degrees and I rev'd it up to 3200+rpm and then moved the dizzy so my mark I made at 29.5 lined up with the case; is this correct? It ran real good but I wasn't sure if it was the right way of doing it...

I'm thinking if I dial it in at 10 deg (right mark) and then adjust the light to 29 deg or 30 deg and then rev it to 3200 and move it so it's back on the 10 mark it will be timed correctly.

Anyones thoughts?

It may be easier to adjust it to TDC but seeing as there isn't a mark it's a bit harder

My Bosch 019 isn't as shite as the chinese 009's floating around so it's guaranteed to stop advancing after 17 deg and the dwell angle on the NOS points is bang on at 50

Yeah first senario sounds right

You retard the light/strobe against firing so the tdc mark then shows at the timing marker/case split as your selected setting..... So you will need to take into account those 7.5 or 10 marks to use them


Remember I'm a dumbarse tho

Damn on the nats, was looking forward to a few link and swingers in one group

I think your over complicating your new timing light. Either advance the light to 30*, rev it to 3000+ and check with light, you should set to zero.... OR, leave your light at zero, rev up to 3000+ and set to your calculated notch on the pulley that you measured to 30* (about an inch to the right of the two marks pictured).

Your pulley has 7.5 and 10* notches. The shallow groove on the outer edge is bogus so too will the one 180* around, someone f'd up putting on two TDC marks for valve adjusting.

Nah, not how you use an advance light sorry Shaun & Damo - basically the advance setting on the light "retards" the light by the amount, so if you're still using a +29 mark then you've effectively got double the advance.

The whole idea of an advance light is so you don't need so many marks on the pulley - you can just use the TDC mark to dial in whatever timing you want.

To do that, correct way of using 'em is to:
- set the light to the max advance you want (e.g. 30)
- rev the engine to 3000 to make sure it's at max advance
- adjust the dizzy so when the light fires the TDC mark is lined up with the case.

So if you were going to use your 10 deg BTDC mark, you'd set the timing light to 20 deg... TDC + 30 = 30, and 10 + 20 = 30.



Clear as mud ???

Matty has it right (and beat me by about 10 seconds it seems)

Cheers Dave.......gotta be quick mate

woo hoo!

result!

Cheers fellas, it's clear as mud but it makes sense!!

I'll adjust it tomorrow and see how I go, the instructions that came with the light and youtube were hopeless!!!

Daimo; we're both dumbasses!

Cheers

Shaun

Yeah head, English language and text got all messed up there

Ha! Now Let's exPlain how to mark ACTUAL tdc on a pulley to really mess this up

I'm an advanced retard

Timed and running sweet!

Managed to get it at 29.5 degrees by advancing 22 on the light and timing to the left notch as always

Thanks for the help guys; this forum never ceases to impress me

YIKES

I'm glad I don't have one of those timing lights... lol

I don't need to know that 20+10=30 etc... lol

old timing light and degree'd pulleys are great... lol

Good to see that You got 29.5 BTDC OK..

LEE

Good to hear you got it sorted Shaun !!!

I dunno with you sometimes Lee... you've got LED's most everywhere in your bug, but an advance timing light is too much technology for ya ???

Hi

Your lucky that you still have stock pulley in a way, the degreed pulleys are useful but I found that the one on my sons bug was 6 degrees out, most likely a combination of a Chinese crank and the degreed pulley.

Steve

Yep yep steve they need checking

wow, 6 degrees is a long way out!

How do the berg pulleys fair daimo?

Question - if the dizzy only has a max advance of 17 degrees then at 3000+ rpm shouldn't the engine be timed to 7.5+17=24.5?

I thought the 30 degrees was to take into account the poor quality of the newer 009's.

Any ideas chaps?

No, tune for total advance, I shoot for 32-34 depending on the engine. It's the initial that will change depending on the distributer

Yar, just did a bit of reading on that. Funny that the idle advance will be 12 degrees on that dizzy compared to 8-10 for later 009's.

Glad I have my vac advance really cos I sure don't miss my German 009