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Accuspark?
itsfo - May 15th, 2012 at 05:33 PM

Hey all,

Has anyone used the accuspark electronic dizzy/coil/plug/lead kit off ebay?

Been looking for a reliable upgrade for my square.

Ends up being around $170 delivered from the UK.

Here is the link:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/180842553879?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=...

Any advice or better alternatives would be appreciated!

Cheers! :cool:


Joel - May 15th, 2012 at 06:45 PM

Most of the aussie suppliers would have kits like that in stock, and you would pay a heap less in freight.

Accu-spark is scraping the bottom of the barrel abit when it comes to electronic ignition, if you do a search around the various forums alot of people bitching about being stranded by the cheap kits like accu-fire, empi, hot spark etc failing.

The better known brands like Pertronix, compu-fire etc aren't much more and have a much better reputation.

I've used a Pertronix ignitor II for years and been happy with it.


itsfo - May 15th, 2012 at 09:40 PM

Cool cool, thanks for the advice, the general rule of "too good to be true" lives on!

Cheers.


SebastienPeek - May 15th, 2012 at 10:27 PM

Sorry to hijack, but this sounds like a good place to bring up this sort of discussion.

What are the major differences between kits such as Compu-Fire and MSD Ignition?
What is needed specifically, for a MSD Ignition setup in a Beetle, what about a Compu-Fire ignition setup?

Thanks!


itsfo - May 15th, 2012 at 10:56 PM

Compu-fire make the distributorless ignition system (compu-tronix do as well) I think. Like most modern EFI setups.

Basically turns the moving parts of your dizzy into a crank angle sensor, which tells the coil pack when to fire.

The kits seem to come with everything you need. The new dizzy cap (+internals), wiring, coil pack, leads.

Not sure about MSD, but I imagine it as a similar set up.

This is just my understanding though!

As far as I know, they all do the same thing! Make stuff go bang!


snitz - May 15th, 2012 at 11:11 PM

Im sure the MSD setup is just an electronic dizzy using a cap and leads..Where as the Compufire set up like on my wifes car uses a gutted Empi 004 mechanical advance dizzy with a magnetic pickup and rotor disk inside.This tells the coilpacks when to fire.There are no wearing parts..well besides the dizzy bearings. The whole kit is good quality besides the leads which are more or less generic leads like sold on CIP1 so I made custom MSD leads to suit the coilpack placement..
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss283/psirx7/lead3.jpg


SebastienPeek - May 16th, 2012 at 12:04 AM

A, okay, that makes sense!

Jason, does the CompuFire system have a tachometer wire?
I know that MSD setups such as the 6AL do, and I am needing one for the new setup I'll be running, but if the CompuFire does then I'll easily purchase a kit.

It's all about the best bang for my buck that ticks all the boxes really. And before you say just run the tachometer from the coil, with the setup I'm going I can't.

:)


snitz - May 16th, 2012 at 12:42 AM

Yes the Compufire Setup has a plug thats bare for the tacho adaptor.Which is called a Tacho Adaptor for D.I.S Ignition Systems.Their available from Wassim at Vollks.
He's sold out of Compufire setups but if the dollars good jsut buy the mechanical advance 009,Compufire setup and tacho adaptor all from CIP1 while the dollars still good.


SebastienPeek - May 16th, 2012 at 12:45 AM

Awesome, the CompuFire sounds a lot easier to install then the MSD ignition kits, will add it to my CIP1 order now.

Thanks Jason, appreciate the help!


snitz - May 16th, 2012 at 12:57 AM

Just make sure you buy a mechanical advance 009 style dizzy thats suits the Compufire system if you dont have one now that is..


SebastienPeek - May 16th, 2012 at 01:13 AM

It says on the description that it fits an 009 Bosch Style Mechanical Dizzy, which is what I currently have :)


Joel - May 16th, 2012 at 07:26 AM

Seb, Have you bought anything just yet?

The Dis-x coil pack systems like snitz has is the way to go, modern cars have been using coil pack ignitions for over 20 years now, distributors went out with the arc.

THey have come down in price alot, they aren't much over the $300 last time I checked.


SebastienPeek - May 16th, 2012 at 11:04 AM

Yeah, bought the Compufire system from CIP1.
:)


snitz - May 16th, 2012 at 01:22 PM

Cool Seb..The leads that come with the Compufire setup are usually too long. I have an MSD crimping tool so if you ever want me to make a custom set of leads just let me know.
Just buy the bits from outlaw speed shop and I can make them up free of charge you just supply the bits..cheer Jason.


DakDak67 - May 20th, 2012 at 07:22 PM

Be sure to have your 009 recurved ..


snitz - May 20th, 2012 at 07:43 PM

My Empi Competition dissy is a 40 degree Mechanical Advanced Dizzy.To suit the Compufire and Twin HPMX carbies.


SebastienPeek - May 20th, 2012 at 07:49 PM

Yeah Jason, I'll be mounting the Compufire system under the back seat so if anything, might need to lengthen the leads ;)


snitz - May 20th, 2012 at 08:02 PM

With the way the rear seat sits on the body there is no room to run your ignition leads from under the seat. Plus the longer the lead the higher the resistance of the lead which defeats the purpose of running a high output ignition.Somewhere behind the rear seat or on the firewall in the cabin is an option..but running leads through the firewall can be an issue too.


DakDak67 - May 20th, 2012 at 08:35 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by snitz
My Empi Competition dissy is a 40 degree Mechanical Advanced Dizzy.To suit the Compufire and Twin HPMX carbies.
Yeh, 40 is very high.. i'm talking about the advance curve-not total advance, a stock 009 curve only suits an industrial engine.


Joel - May 20th, 2012 at 09:09 PM

If you need to mount the modules inside the car, most people normally put them on the inside of the firewall/parcel tray.


SebastienPeek - May 20th, 2012 at 09:21 PM

Alright, may have to rethink it, but hoping I can conceal it away.