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mixture adjusment 34 pict 3
homer - June 6th, 2012 at 05:36 PM

How do you adjust the mixture on a 34 pict3.
i have a backfire until the engine is really warmed up(too lean?).Living where i do and only driving about 10km to work in the morning is a pain in the butt as it is so cold in the mornings. Thanks in advance for your help


hellbugged - June 6th, 2012 at 06:01 PM

http://www.angelfire.com/tx2/ntnb/Carb_Instructions.htm 


homer - June 10th, 2012 at 07:34 AM

Thanks Daimo. Adjusted and running a bit better but i checked on saturday morning and there was ice on the manifold under the carb, i guess i will be changing it.


bajachris88 - June 10th, 2012 at 11:28 AM

backfire on coasting? backfire/splutter when you take off?

what distributor you running?

mixture screw adjuster only for when there is zero throttle (ie: idle).

check your timing too. it might be too retarded. You could advance it a little and this helps (be careful though, not too far)

I get condensation under my carburettor, if cold enough i spose it could turn into an ice. Natural with fuel evaporating into a vacuum, it absorbs the surrounding heat energy (similar process of cooling in an 'evaporator' of an air conditioning system).


Bizarre - June 10th, 2012 at 12:00 PM

Are your heat riser tubes working properly??
That will cause icing if they are blocked


matberry - June 10th, 2012 at 12:19 PM

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Originally posted by Bizarre
Are your heat riser tubes working properly??
That will cause icing if they are blocked
:tu:


vw54 - June 10th, 2012 at 04:43 PM

Also make sure the large and small O rings on the adjusting screws are good

it may be sucking air as well


homer - June 11th, 2012 at 08:28 AM

i am running a single vacuum advance distributor with a Pertronix ignitor and matching coil. The backfire is only happening on acceleration although there is a slight miss on idle.
definately ice on the manifold as i stopped and checked. Are the heat risers able to be cleaned they look like it would be a pain because of the bends.


Bizarre - June 11th, 2012 at 09:08 AM

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Originally posted by homer
. Are the heat risers able to be cleaned they look like it would be a pain because of the bends.


One of the worse jobs ever.
Giving a sewer rat a colonoscopy would be more pleasant

The miss on idle is making me think vacuum leak


homer - June 11th, 2012 at 10:19 AM

i have tightened the manifolds and exhaust. Maybe i should check the o rings on the screws.


Joel - June 11th, 2012 at 10:40 AM

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Originally posted by Bizarre
Quote:
Originally posted by homer
. Are the heat risers able to be cleaned they look like it would be a pain because of the bends.


One of the worse jobs ever.
Giving a sewer rat a colonoscopy would be more pleasant


I did one of mine ages ago
It wasn't so bad, cleared a passage through first with a broken clutch cable in the drill then sat it upside down overnight with filled some sort of acid the old man got me.
Sorry it was about 12 years ago, can't remember what kind it was.

Next morning flushed it with a garden hose and what was left came out as a black sludgy paste.


homer - June 11th, 2012 at 11:20 AM

i have some acid i got for a science project of my daughters. i will get the car through its pink slip this week then try cleaning them.


bajachris88 - June 11th, 2012 at 12:34 PM

be sure there are no splits/cracks in the manifold boots too. :tu:

The crazy sensativity to vacuum leaks on these motors is like a red head in the sun. Only takes a little to cause trouble and it gave me plenty of grief in the past. The 'spray aerosol around the manifold components' trick works well. just listen out for a substantial 'rev up' to know the aersol is passing through manifold joints and boots to know there is a vacuum breech present at that area. Deoderant works good, smells ok too :lol:


homer - June 12th, 2012 at 05:14 AM

i will give that a go.


vw54 - June 12th, 2012 at 08:08 AM

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are no splits/cracks in the manifold boots too



yes good point as there are some CHEAP crappy boots around that dont like the taste of petrol

make sure you replace with good German ones


homer - June 12th, 2012 at 05:21 PM

i will have to try a different supplier this time round.


vw54 - June 12th, 2012 at 05:22 PM

also 4 got to say there are CHEAP crappy air screw O rings around

that just DONT work


homer - June 13th, 2012 at 05:17 AM

i have 2 big boxes of assorted o rings at work. they are wurth brand which are supposed to german


bajachris88 - June 13th, 2012 at 09:31 AM

It doesn't matter about the brand (well it does) but there are different types of rubber.

most rubber o-rings are not fuel stabilised. It has to be a 'fuel specific' o-ring. Just like injector O-rings, there are made of a special specific rubber that can handle exposure to fuel without degregation (fuel acts as a solvent).

I learnt the hard way, replaced a pinched injector o-ring with an o-ring (automotive one mind you) from a mixed packet at super cheap, lasted 4 months before i had to replace again as after following the fuel smell i could see fuel leaking out of the rail from that injector. The rubber just gets eaten away. So i went to a local fuel injection specialist and got the proper stuff; fuel stabilised rubber o-rings.

Its just like how silicone or gasket maker goop gets dissolved away by fuel. same thing happens to the o-ring. turns sticky and gets eaten away.


1303Steve - June 13th, 2012 at 10:02 AM

Hi

I worked on a twin port 1300 once that had a hole in the inlet manifold going into heat riser, some brain surgeon had fitted a 150 main jet to compensate, so when you take the manifold off have blow through it, followed by a beer.

The later intake manifolds preheats were larger in diameter and seem to resist blocking a bit more.

Is it a dual vacuum carby, as in a vacuum port facing out the back of the car? What jets are you running?

Your heat riser should sizzle when you lick your finger and touch it after the motor is warmed up.

Steve


homer - June 13th, 2012 at 05:48 PM

I'm not sure if its a dual vacuum carby and do not know what jets are in it. as far as i am aware it is all standard for a 74 beetle.


homer - June 15th, 2012 at 05:44 PM

Tried the deodorant and there was no change to the engine speed. i will take the manifold off now that the car has passed the pink slip and unblock the heat risers and i will check the timing and replace the manifold gaskets and seals.


psimitar - June 15th, 2012 at 11:53 PM

blocked heat risers aren't so hard to clean. use a 6mm drill for the first 3 inches and then get a thick wire coat hanger. Cut a 6, 9, 12 inch and full riser length piece and use a hammer to flatten one end of each into a sharp flat end.

Place each bit in order in a drill and the flatted end will cut the carbon out fairly well. Once you've made a hole you can carry one with the lengths of wire and make coils of wire or try some pool acid down the hole. That should eat into the carbon pretty well too ;)

Does sound like an air leak somewhere aswell. Flatten the inlet manifold faces with 180 wet n dry, some wd40 and a flat piece of glass. Do the same to the inlet manifold face and the bottom of the carb. Check your rubber boots. If still misfiring after new gaskets then either dizzy or carb issue.


homer - June 16th, 2012 at 07:31 AM

i will give that a go.


homer - June 17th, 2012 at 02:55 PM

I have removed the inlet manifold and it is not blocked. The heat riser outlets on the exhaust are blocked up with rust. I guess thats what happens when you buy cheap stuff.


homer - July 8th, 2012 at 10:40 AM

I dug the rust out and it turns out the exhaust has not had the holes for the heat risers put in it when it was made but has the flanges on it. I suppose you get what you pay for. I will have to see if i can make a hole but it is not a straight tube.


Uber Kafer - July 8th, 2012 at 11:23 AM

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Originally posted by homer
I dug the rust out and it turns out the exhaust has not had the holes for the heat risers put in it when it was made but has the flanges on it. I suppose you get what you pay for.


The holes in the heat riser flanges are an optional feature.
If you have dual carbies you dont need the holes. If you have a heat riser/single carbie combo you insert a metric hole before installing the manifold.


bajachris88 - July 8th, 2012 at 11:35 AM

I believe you can get electric heaters to go around the manifold for acting like a pre heater when heater risers are either non-existant or the flanges are not present.

I think i recall Joel talking about em' at one stage many moons ago on here ??

Permanent bandage fix?


homer - July 8th, 2012 at 12:12 PM

The holes are in the flanges but not in the pipe. I dont think its meant to be like that.


matberry - July 8th, 2012 at 12:18 PM

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Originally posted by Uber Kafer
The holes in the heat riser flanges are an optional feature.
If you have dual carbies you dont need the holes. If you have a heat riser/single carbie combo you insert a metric hole before installing the manifold.
Answer is right here