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Engine main seal?
baja_01 - June 20th, 2012 at 06:11 PM

Hi All
Just pulled the motor out to do some mods and found little strips of red seal material in bellhousing with a small amount of oil. Before the motor was put back in the main seal was replaced and a new cromo flywheel fitted. Any hints at what could cause this?
Also end play set at 0.003"
BTW Elring seal used


68AutoBug - June 20th, 2012 at 09:01 PM

Hi
I have read in manuals where the seal is pushed in flush BUT
I have a copy of the special tool to knock the seal in and it is stepped...
so the seal should be knocked in further..

Maybe the flywheel was up against it??

LEE

PS: I'm no mechanic..


psimitar - June 22nd, 2012 at 11:38 PM

Also, those red seals are pretty crap and I dunno anyone in Oz who stock VW Germany seals as the VW Brasil ones are of pretty poor quality.

The 'genuine' VW German seals are available at a cost but will give troublefree motoring. Go to VW Heritage in the UK for cheapest shipping price :)


matberry - June 23rd, 2012 at 09:07 AM

I stock German Elring red seals, the best money can buy. $13.oo each Part # 113 195 245F SIL


psimitar - June 23rd, 2012 at 01:48 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by matberry
I stock German Elring red seals, the best money can buy. $13.oo each Part # 113 195 245F SIL


Cheaper than a genuine VW Germany seal at $30. Only time would tell which is better ;)


68AutoBug - June 23rd, 2012 at 09:50 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by psimitar
Also, those red seals are pretty crap and I dunno anyone in Oz who stock VW Germany seals as the VW Brasil ones are of pretty poor quality.

The 'genuine' VW German seals are available at a cost but will give troublefree motoring. Go to VW Heritage in the UK for cheapest shipping price :)


Mat Berry stocks the ELRING seals so does Vintage Vee Dub and anyone who knows what a good main seal is..

Not worth the trouble to fit anything else...

LEE


psimitar - June 23rd, 2012 at 10:07 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 68AutoBug
Quote:
Originally posted by psimitar
Also, those red seals are pretty crap and I dunno anyone in Oz who stock VW Germany seals as the VW Brasil ones are of pretty poor quality.

The 'genuine' VW German seals are available at a cost but will give troublefree motoring. Go to VW Heritage in the UK for cheapest shipping price :)


Mat Berry stocks the ELRING seals so does Vintage Vee Dub and anyone who knows what a good main seal is..

Not worth the trouble to fit anything else...

LEE


Never heard of the Elrings before so went with what I know and trust. Quality of the genuine VW German seal is very good tho ;)


matberry - June 23rd, 2012 at 10:54 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by psimitar
Quality of the genuine VW German seal is very good tho ;)

That would be certain, mind you, they are probably from the same factory.


psimitar - June 23rd, 2012 at 11:50 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by matberry
Quote:
Originally posted by psimitar
Quality of the genuine VW German seal is very good tho ;)

That would be certain, mind you, they are probably from the same factory.


Do you mean the Elring and VW seal are probably from the same factory?


matberry - June 24th, 2012 at 07:59 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by psimitar

Do you mean the Elring and VW seal are probably from the same factory?
Yes


HappyDaze - June 24th, 2012 at 08:26 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by psimitar
Quote:
Originally posted by matberry
I stock German Elring red seals, the best money can buy. $13.oo each Part # 113 195 245F SIL


Cheaper than a genuine VW Germany seal at $30. Only time would tell which is better ;)

I'm sure the likes of Matt Berry would not risk a hard-earned reputation by using inferior parts.


66deluxe - June 24th, 2012 at 08:27 AM

Elring and victor reinz are great quality seals. But i would choose elring first.


matberry - June 24th, 2012 at 08:37 AM

Ta Greg.

I have seen Victor Reinz go way downhill in recent years. Thier early Porshe seals leave a bit to be desired.


psimitar - June 24th, 2012 at 12:30 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by HappyDaze
Quote:
Originally posted by psimitar
Quote:
Originally posted by matberry
I stock German Elring red seals, the best money can buy. $13.oo each Part # 113 195 245F SIL


Cheaper than a genuine VW Germany seal at $30. Only time would tell which is better ;)

I'm sure the likes of Matt Berry would not risk a hard-earned reputation by using inferior parts.


Matt's a dying breed then mate. I've seen so many companies worldwide just sit on their laurels and sell off their reputation as quality goes downhill yet prices go up :(

Also, interesting that if the VW and Elring are made by the same company that the Elring is way cheaper than the VW part. Least I know for next time where to get one from :)