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some pics of my 64 bug(engine build)
type3vw - November 9th, 2008 at 05:19 PM

here is a few pics of my bug, at the moment only got a 1600 in it but in the build is my 2332cc engine ill post some pics of it soon. the last photo is me holding up a first place banner for best european car from the only car show i have only entered it in


vw54 - November 9th, 2008 at 05:37 PM

looks nice


nbturbo - November 9th, 2008 at 05:51 PM

Have you got a pic taken from the back?Would like to see the engine cover with the louvres.


bond - November 9th, 2008 at 09:59 PM

mate - love it - looks unreal with the 16"s

nick


vw4life - November 10th, 2008 at 12:13 PM

prefer the 65 personaly


jh68 - November 10th, 2008 at 04:17 PM

nice - love the colour!


type3vw - March 1st, 2009 at 08:36 PM

here are some pics of the engine i have been building,
its a 2332cc (84mm stroke 94mm bore). CB super case,
CB forged crank, CB 5.6 inch H beam rods, engle FK89
cam, heads 42mm inlet 37.5 exhaust, some porting of my
own. 10.2:1 comp and some 48mm IDA webers.


type3vw - March 1st, 2009 at 08:42 PM

some more


matberry - March 2nd, 2009 at 08:20 AM

Not wanting to be negative, so please take this as you will, but if you want to get your money's worth out of this engine combo, I would highly recommend improving that port job or get someone who knows what they're doing or put in a smaller cam. Looks like you got some great bits, would be a shame to waste them. Looks like you have started to blend the seat to the port, which is a start, but there's a lot more work to do in there. I figure your thread went quiet as nobody wants to not give praise, call it constructive criticism. Good luck with the project. Matt


izac - March 2nd, 2009 at 08:24 PM

looks like a good start, and think that is some good advice from matberry.

i would love to build my own engine and was just wondering how much experience/knowledge you need to take on something like this?

good luck with the build and keep us posted:tu:
cheers


Golde60 - March 2nd, 2009 at 08:55 PM

Im no expert on porting of heads, so I got mine done by the experts.
Only reason I havent commented on the thread is that I havent read it yet!

I like the bug, especially the one pc windows. I wish I had gone through with that on mine, I think it really suits the lines on the bug.

As for Mat's comments, he is one of those that know, so take the advise. Plenty of good advise on the forum. Get some more pics up man,.....

nice car


hellbugged - March 3rd, 2009 at 05:36 AM

yeah i've got to go with Matt too......smaller cam and good porting work

always liked this car, glad it's with someone who is
looking after it!


type3kid - March 3rd, 2009 at 07:47 AM

damn.. i'm not really into beetles at all but that is one sweet ride. congrats on thw award.

as for engine size and advice. i know nothing so will just read comments and pretend i know what you all are talking about!!:lol:

keep more pics coming, nice ride

cheers

aaron


type3vw - March 4th, 2009 at 03:17 PM

thanks for the replys guys. mat the heads are only minor
porting at the moment slowly slowly will get better.
this is the same porting i done on my 1835 and the
best time i got out of that was 13.15 at 98mph.
its all trial and error and progressing from there.
there is only one way to learn...


matberry - March 4th, 2009 at 09:10 PM

Cant argue with that. Keep up the good work, good times in the 1835.

Forgot to say before, your bug looks awsome, the perfect package, nice colour, subtle accessories on full polished Fuch's.....mmmmmmmmmmm


type3vw - March 5th, 2009 at 03:18 PM

thanks mat. i like your car also, good eighth mile times too.
have you ran over the quarter at all?
the 1835 was a screamer, awsome off the line but was
lacking in the top end after the 2332 i want to do another
1835 and try tweak a bit more out of it.


izac - March 5th, 2009 at 03:31 PM

this may be a silly question but what do you need to know/ and how much experience do you need before you tackle a an engine build like this? :dork:

cheers


type3vw - March 5th, 2009 at 03:38 PM

a stroker motor is alot more harder then building a non
stroker motor. i wouldnt build a stroker without previous
experience.


izac - March 5th, 2009 at 03:59 PM

does that mean using a bigger size crankshaft than the stock 69mm? sorry i am new to this
what about say a 1915 or is that a stroker?
cheers


type3vw - March 5th, 2009 at 04:16 PM

yeah bigger then the 69mm crank is a stroker.
a 1915cc is just bigger pistons and barrels.
but with the 1915 you need to get the case and
heads machined so the barrels will fit. if you havnt built
a std motor before i wouldnt build one that you spend
your hard earned dollars on and it fail. get someone who
knows what they are doing to put it together for you.


matberry - March 5th, 2009 at 09:05 PM

Anyone can build an engine with relatively basic skills, but certain jobs require specialised tools, and certainly there are good books that explain the process well. How to Hotrod VW Engines, although old (written in the 70's) still has invaluable info on the subject. Displacement is increased by increasing the bore or stroke or BOTH. Increasing bore bolts together easiest but any increase in bore size will increase the compression ratio which makes the engine more powerful but also run hotter so a balance needs to be found. Increase stroke and all sorts of things change...... get the book.:smilegrin:

There are plenty of threads on here
this one comes to mind for some light reading http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=38560&page=1 


izac - March 5th, 2009 at 09:41 PM

thanks for the info fellas

Quote:
Originally posted by type3vw
yeah bigger then the 69mm crank is a stroker.
a 1915cc is just bigger pistons and barrels.
but with the 1915 you need to get the case and
heads machined so the barrels will fit. if you havnt built
a std motor before i wouldnt build one that you spend
your hard earned dollars on and it fail. get someone who
knows what they are doing to put it together for you.


yeah i understand what you are saying there about experience cheers

Matt - yeah i am looking at maybe building my 1600 dp up to a 1915 if i think i can manage it, would be a good learning experience i think :blush:... i have become very fascinated with the enigine building stuff and doing as much reading as i can. i am one year out of school and am thinking i might want to to a mechanic apprenticeship (engine building would be great so we'll see)
I have a little knowledge from working on my own car, and did 2 days work experience at Custom VeeDub with Pete which was great fun, and reading up stuff on here of course!!

Sorry to hijack your thread Ben, but would i need to buy a counterweighted crankshaft (69mm) if i were to attempt to build a 1915? as i have heard that the stock ones can bend at that much power/ high rpm etc...

cheers


izac - March 5th, 2009 at 09:45 PM

oh and yeah i will try and get a hold of that book:tu:


matberry - March 5th, 2009 at 10:07 PM

Build a basic engine with stock parts...a good learner for cheap, to find out how things work and go together is one way to do it. What size depends on what budget your prepared to play with, and start your own thread for ideas maybe:lol:

type3vw, proof your 1835 was doin alright, I've had my car on the quarter just the once, it really needs the suspension sorted , but ran 13.14 @ 104. Broke a clutch cable so missed out on the 'certain' 12 that night:D
Cranky was previously owned by Michael N and ran a best of 11.99, when Mike ran the same combo, he managed an 11.6? I think, Those in the know may correct me, so there's plenty of cars to aspire to (if that makes sense)


type3vw - March 6th, 2009 at 09:50 AM

thats awsome mat. shame on the clutch cable.
ill dig through some boxes and see if i can find my old
time slips for the 1835.


matberry - March 6th, 2009 at 11:45 AM

Forgot to mention in the above post that Cranky running those times was n/a 1835 :tu:


izac - March 6th, 2009 at 01:21 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by matberry
Build a basic engine with stock parts...a good learner for cheap, to find out how things work and go together is one way to do it. What size depends on what budget your prepared to play with, and start your own thread for ideas maybe:lol:


yeah cheers matt sounds good

i think i got a bit to excited over the whole engine building thing :lol: yeah might start my own thread, sorry Type3vw :blush:

keep up the good work mate looks awesome

:tu:


Boostn - March 6th, 2009 at 10:22 PM

Dude,
that's a fast 1835 !!!
What car was that in?
Your post says your in Melbourne?
I don't know the car, sorry I should being local.
Post some pics of it.
Heathcote, Calder? what year?


type3vw - March 7th, 2009 at 11:35 AM

it was a white 1958 bug, i ran it at calder about 2003. i want to post some pics but how can i put a pic on here from a photo. would i have to have it scanned?


Boostn - March 10th, 2009 at 03:25 PM

Hey Ben,

Sorry I don't remember seeing it. Have you still got it? You should do the VW club drag days and Portland.