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after 5 years sitting,time to restore(67 bug)update roof in primer

type3vw - July 6th, 2009 at 05:07 PM

well after buying this 2 owner bug a little over 5 years ago.
it sat in my mates garage collecting dust. after getting
engaged i decided i wanted one of my cars as the
wedding car. so i dragged the bug out of my mates
garage (literally, the brakes were seized to the drums).
we put it on the trailer and bring it home. the very
next day we took the body off the pan. then it sat for a few
weeks. the weekend that just went we stripped it of all
paint and glue from interior. pics to come. it will be going
back to origanal paint and interior theme(black with red
interior) ill put my 16 inch fuchs and my 2332cc engine.
hope you all enjoy my build. forgot to mention needs to
be finished by april next year.

type3vw - July 6th, 2009 at 05:12 PM

here is some pics
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type3vw - July 6th, 2009 at 05:18 PM

the only rust i have is in the drivers side rear wheel arch
where the guard bolts on and the rear bumper mounts.
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type3vw - July 6th, 2009 at 05:22 PM

the body off the pan
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type3vw - July 6th, 2009 at 05:34 PM

just a few more

type3vw - July 6th, 2009 at 05:35 PM

i will post more pics during the week.

type3vw - July 8th, 2009 at 10:48 PM

bit of an update. monday and tuesday night and tonight
i have spent in the garage. 90 percent of the car is now
bare metal and the roof is in etch primer.
have any of you come across this marking/stamp on a bug
it was on the roof on the bare metal.

type3vw - July 8th, 2009 at 10:50 PM

a few more pics

type3vw - July 8th, 2009 at 10:52 PM

and some more

type3vw - July 8th, 2009 at 10:56 PM

some pics of the parcel floor and heater channels.
i cant beleive not one bit of rust there.

eraser - July 9th, 2009 at 03:59 PM

looking good keep us up to date

izac - July 10th, 2009 at 10:04 PM

looks like its coming along nicely... :tu:

type3vw - July 11th, 2009 at 11:04 AM

thanks guys. does anyone know what that stamp on the
roof was for???

Phil74Camper - July 24th, 2009 at 03:48 PM

I haven't seen that stamp before - I certainly didn't see any such marking on my '64 years ago when it was stripped back to bare metal.

My guess is that it is a manufacturing stamp for the steelmakers who provided the rolled steel to the Volkswagen plant in Melbourne. The Clayton factory was fully equipped with giant hydraulic presses to cut and stamp the VW body panels, as well as having the first body master jig outside of Wolfsburg. The Clayton plant would have purchased and used rolls of Australian-made sheet steel, and I think it's a manufacturer's stamp on the sheet roll.

Does the marking say 'CPS' or 'CRS'? If it is CRS it could stand for 'Commonwealth Rolled Steel'. The Commonwealth Steel Company was based at Waratah, Newcastle, and became part of BHP in the 1970s.

type3vw - July 26th, 2009 at 05:57 PM

thanks heaps phil74camper, very informative information.
yeah its CRS, good to know where vw australia got there
sheet metal from. well now i know about the mystery
stamp. well i done a little extra work on the bug. i got my
brand new 2 inch narrowed beam. and i have tared the
inside of the floor. the bottom of the floor is getting
painted.

Matt Ryan - August 26th, 2009 at 10:24 AM

CRS is an abbreviation of the manufacturing process, it stands for Cold Rolled Steel. In this process the steel is pressed between two rollers to achieve a uniform thickness. When metal is worked below its 're-crystallisation' temperature it is said to be 'cold worked'. However, the metal may be purposely heated or still quite hot from another forming process such as hot rolling or forging.

Lysaght were suppliers of steel to VW Australia, in the '60's when full local production was happening, it probably arrived by train at the Clayton factory in "coils" like this:

They would have been fed through Clayton's huge presses to be stamped into various body panels. I can't see Lysaght going to the trouble of re- rolling the coil (once it's been formed) just so they can put a stamp on every few feet. So, I would imagine the stamp was applied just to the outermost roll of the coil (for product identification) once it had cooled.

So, your roof skin seems to be lucky enough to have been pressed from the first few yards of a Lysaght coil as it was fed into the panel press at Clayton. The stamp was protected by the initial phosphate coating used in the factory on bare metal, there would have been no need to sand the stamp off as there were four coats of paint to come, so the stamp had no chance of showing through. Being only at the beginning of the coil explains why people don't find these stamps too often.

Quote:

From: Knowing Australian Volkswagens, by Dave Long & Phil Matthews.

The factory did four coats of paint - first a phosphate coating over the bare metal to improve adhesion, then came the black dip in a tank to protect every part of the body. This was followed by grey undercoat, cream filler and finally a baked enamel topcoat, provided by oil fired radiant heat ovens.

Regards,

Matt.

type3vw - August 27th, 2009 at 07:09 PM

WOW. that is awsome matt. i thank you heaps for your time to write so much about the process, very informative stuff there. good to know im learning quite a lot on the history of my car. thanks heaps.

t_tuffnut - August 28th, 2009 at 07:51 PM

Looks great man!

Out of interest, what did you use to get the remnants of the hessian insulation off the rear parcel area? I've got all sorts of rubbish still stuck to mine.

type3vw - August 29th, 2009 at 02:14 PM

i used a wire wheel then used a plastic sanding wheel. worked really well i had it done in just an hour