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hi new member from melb with a 57 oval and 67 1300 deluxe group nb race car
fx132 - April 12th, 2011 at 04:26 PM

hi my name is john i am from melb and i am restoring a 57 oval and i also have a 67 1300 deluxe group nb race car that i do historic sprints in


1303Steve - April 12th, 2011 at 04:51 PM

Hi

Nice cars tell us more about them.

Steve

PS are you coming to Sydney to run at VW Nationals Supersprint?


vassy66T1 - April 12th, 2011 at 04:55 PM

Very cool race car.
I would love to run in the historics.
What type of events do you run in? (e.g. speed, timed, circuit)


fx132 - April 12th, 2011 at 05:50 PM

Hi Steve,Marcus
Thanks for the interest.Car 64 was built to NB historic specs.
Have raced in historic sprints twice against Mustangs,minis and Eh holdens.
have had a first place and second.has run 14.2secs over 1/4 mile.
Will be uploading more photos and specs at later date.
Running at Ballarat at Easter @ re-enactment of 1961 motor racing, will inform progress.

'57 ovl is almost complete,have spent mega bucks and will be for sale.
I will be uploading all photos and details of money spent.

Regards John


vassy66T1 - April 12th, 2011 at 06:54 PM

Excellent.
Is that 14.2 sec out of a 1300? :tu:


fx132 - April 16th, 2011 at 12:35 PM

hi everyone my dad has asked me to put some more photos up for him he will update u guys with the specs of the cars for u a bit later


fx132 - April 16th, 2011 at 12:37 PM

another one


vassy66T1 - April 16th, 2011 at 05:55 PM

Beautiful John :tu:

That is a gorgeous race car. Well done


lou0060 - April 26th, 2011 at 09:59 PM

I'm with Marcus on that! love the retro style racers. but I reckon Marcus might be a bit shy on the 1300. looks more like a 1835 or bigger?? Not sure what the NB specs are but I would have thought you would have to be under 2 litre at least and maybe even 1600 max?

love the flash and BRM's and are those VDO gauges under the dash and a Porsche 356 tacho??


cam070 - April 26th, 2011 at 10:18 PM

Love the race car, but while I lack the expertise of others on this forum that motor looks far more potent than a 1300!


sander288 - April 27th, 2011 at 11:51 AM

Class Nb must be in the same cubic capacity class as the original motor was; and cc can be varied within that; meaning that a 1200 could be made a 1300 but a 1300 (1285) doesn't have much scope for capacity change.

This looks like it has DP 1300 heads off a later model beetle; which strictly speaking isn't allowed by the rules. But there is a spec sheet that has been approved by cams that shows a car with DP heads and a 34mm carb running in the more restrictive Na class so because its been approved previously its all above board.

I would love to hear more details of this car as i've always wondered how competitive a bug would be in class Nb; I run a 1300 deluxe in regularity at historic meets with a stock motor and thought watching the class Nb cars that a bug couldn't be made competitive against some of the others in the class.

Cheers

Shaun


sander288 - April 27th, 2011 at 12:14 PM

http://www.camsmanual.com.au/pdf/08_historic/HI06_3.4_Historic_Touring_Cars_Q...

link to class regs.

Also FYI a 1300 can be made for power; see the blogs by this bloke in the UK with a GAC built 1300 running twin 44 idf's and FK cam with 140bhp. Problem is all his power is above 5500rpm!!!

http://www.justkampers.com/blog/view/just_beetles_goes_touring_car_racing 

Cheers

Shaun


HappyDaze - April 27th, 2011 at 12:17 PM

A 1275 Cooper S would take a bit of beating........however, it would be a lot of fun trying.:rolleyes:


fx132 - May 6th, 2011 at 03:33 PM

hi everyone results from ballarat the car run in the 14 second bracket over the entire meeting winning the class against 2x gt cortinas 1 loutis cortina and 1 mini great meeting for the bug . For those who are interested in engine specs it is a 1598 with roller bearing crank scat rods forged pistons engle cam and 40mm dellortes appox 150hp


benny_acko - July 13th, 2012 at 03:46 PM

How is this Beetle going in the Nb class-Still racing?Looks great!!
I used to work at a Mini garage in Sydney who raced cars in Nb and the Sports Sedans.Minis were my first love-now trying to move onto a Beetle :smilegrin:
I would have thought a 1300cc or 1600cc Beetle would struggle to keep up with a Mini Cooper S - isn't it just a bit heavier?Whats a Beetle weigh,about 850kg?


sander288 - July 13th, 2012 at 03:58 PM

A stripped 1200 model bug should be around 700-720kg without driver just guessing though as I haven't weighed mine yet but am going on my rego prior to stripping

An advantage a bug has though is it's better under brakes than the mini's

Also a mini gets better lap times in the race as they get sucked along as they generally stay with the big cars on the track until the straight; I improved my lap time by 2 secs at wakefield park purely by tailing a valiant lap after lap down the straight; loosing him but then getting him back by turn 2 and loosing again up the hill.

Quote:
Originally posted by benny_acko
How is this Beetle going in the Nb class-Still racing?Looks great!!
I used to work at a Mini garage in Sydney who raced cars in Nb and the Sports Sedans.Minis were my first love-now trying to move onto a Beetle :smilegrin:
I would have thought a 1300cc or 1600cc Beetle would struggle to keep up with a Mini Cooper S - isn't it just a bit heavier?Whats a Beetle weigh,about 850kg?