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1303 need help on wheel and brake set up
john_p23 - March 7th, 2014 at 05:56 PM

Hi' everyone
Let start with I plan to put either Porsche dial style 16" or twist 17x7 on my 1303 L bug. Everyone said both style will fit under stock guard with no problem.
At the moment my car has stock brake front and rear , front adjustable coil over with narrow spring and empi style 8 spoke wheels and if you see my picture, the front wheels of my car sticking out about 1.5" off the fender already
My question are...
1 . What offset do I need on those wheels?
2. Can I stay with stock brake set up with redrill rotor and drum for now?
3. Other than Porsche 944 or 924 caliper what brake upgrade can I use and fit Porsche wheels?
The car is in process of sending to the painter and wanna make sure that I don't need to flare the guards before they start painting . Wanna do it right at once.
Thank you.

Bizarre - March 7th, 2014 at 06:20 PM

g'day

have a look here at a car I use to own

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=36756&page=1 

The "best" Porsche wheels are Boxster 16" rear 7" ET 40 and front 6" ET 50

Because of their set up you want different ET front and back on Supers

Tele-Dial and twist I dont think you will fit without spacers

You cant redrill legally
If you Porsche stud them with mushroom heads that may be legal
Best to get new rotors and drums drilled.
make sure you get uniforn thickness drums and rotors - not 4 stud webbed blanks.
You wont have enough meat off the web

Stock brakes are fine.
If anything go Type 3 rear drum

john_p23 - March 9th, 2014 at 09:37 PM

Thank you very much for your advice Bizarre. Picture of your bug with boxster wheels was very nice indeed.
Anyway still in love with the twist style and found a set on ebay , they are 17"x7" front and 8" rear , dont know the offset . Dont know if it fit under stock fender? I dont mind 8 mm spacer at the back if it enough clearance. More information please everyone. Thank you
Ps. What do you guy rate rear disc conversion kit from classic veedub?

Bizarre - March 10th, 2014 at 10:27 AM

I wouldn't waste my money on the rear disc kit.
For show only. No better braking and hand brake all but disappears.

If you really want to go that way you are better off with a Ford EB conversion.

Twist will fit under stock guards but it is a real thick spacer which you would not get engineer approval.

karmann141 - March 10th, 2014 at 10:02 PM

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Originally posted by Bizarre
I wouldn't waste my money on the rear disc kit.
For show only. No better braking and hand brake all but disappears.

Twist will fit under stock guards but it is a real thick spacer which you would not get engineer approval.


I know you mentioned brake upgrades other than Porsche 944 but they really are the ultimate package for a 1303.

Standard Beetle braking is pretty crap and until you've driven a 1303 with factory ventilated discs and calipers that are designed to stop a much heavier car - you don't know what excellent brakes are. Added benefits are a factory handbrake that works and a wide range of Porsche wheels that will fit without spacers.

I've used the complete 944 NA front hub on a adjustable strut with standard springs and complete 944 NA rear trailing arms and standard 1303 MC - braking is amazing with a very progressive pedal. All engineered and Blue plated. Rears are much bigger than a modern heavier Beetle. (not sure if its clear in the picture.

Porsche wheels that fit under standard guards are Boxster 16x6 ET50. Boxster 17x7 ET55 - no spacers. After that its wider guards.

karmann141 - March 10th, 2014 at 10:06 PM

Boxster 17x7 ET55 with standard guards and springs

john_p23 - March 11th, 2014 at 06:31 PM

Thanks for your info karmann141. How much you paid for brake set up back then? Was it need much modification?

karmann141 - March 11th, 2014 at 08:46 PM

Bought complete rear trailing arms and brakes for $400 several years ago locally on ebay.

Front hubs and brakes, not sure as I've had them for quite a few years. Unfortunately they're all just getting a bit harder to find these days but they're still available for reasonable $.

Try this site for some good tips


http://vdubengineering.com/technical/porsche-brake-conversions-2/ 

Porsche wheels that will fit and track increases

http://vdubengineering.com/technical/wheel-fitment-guide-aircooled-vws/ 

Cost $300 to engineer brakes and Blueplate