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Pertronix or other elec ignition, what do you think???
adnesiac - December 4th, 2005 at 03:04 PM

hey guys
just looking at putting an electronic ignition system into my bus (pertronix or other?)....do you guys recommend doing this, ie does the preformance and costs etc outway just replacing points?? and is it an easy job?

im looking to service my bus by myself from now on as ive had a bad run with mechanics lately, so ive been cruising richard atwells site (awesome info) and he recommends the upgrade
http://www.ratwell.com/technical/EssentialUpgrades.html 

cheers
adam

[ Edited on 4-12-2005 by adnesiac ]


ClassicVW(pacific) - December 4th, 2005 at 06:01 PM

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adnesiac - December 4th, 2005 at 10:23 PM

cool, emailed them today.....looking forward to going up hills again :smilegrin:


66deluxe - December 9th, 2005 at 04:10 PM

one of the best things you can do for a stock or 009 dizzy, worth the money. I just used a bosch gt40 coil and custom made leads from Queensland ignition leads.


jo_tas - December 13th, 2005 at 09:55 AM

So you can get them to fit the standard distributors? Such as my standard '71 type 3 dizzy?


helterskelter400 - December 13th, 2005 at 12:27 PM

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Originally posted by jo_tas
So you can get them to fit the standard distributors? Such as my standard '71 type 3 dizzy?


check this post for the destructions on the accufire i use on a 009. looks A OK for std vaccume dizzy

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=45071&page=1#pid420460 


takis - September 4th, 2007 at 02:01 PM

i purchased a Petronix 2 ignitor kit.
it was worth every cent.It was installed by me in my daughters 69 bug in a 009 dizzy.
It fires new NGK plugs gapped to 1 mm. The difference before and after is noticeable.A very slight fuel improvement , but best of all no more point replacing and timing ..:cool:


Adsman - September 7th, 2007 at 05:57 AM

Anybody know if the pertronix are ok to use with a MSD6AL? Or if a MSD will be benificial to a 1916 VW motor running twin 44IDF carbs? I have a flat spot just off idle and though the multiple spark setup might solve it.


dangerous - September 7th, 2007 at 06:29 AM

Most flat spots off idle are either
syncronzation,
or lean idle/plot jet.
Try the synchronizing first before changing to a .05mm larger idle jet.
MSD does make idle a bit cleaner , but will not solve your tuning woes.

To be honest, except for the limiter function,
I think MSD is not worth it for the return in performance for the dollar spent.
Perhaps the gain in fuel efficiency may be worthwhile.

Once tou have correct ignition timing and a/f ratio for you combo,
most ignition upgrates that are out there seem to be of only small benefit.

Having said this however replacing the points with a modern pick-up inside the dizzy is well worth it
provided you remember the regular dizzy lubrication schedule for the advance mechanism
as outlined in your owners manual.


063bug - September 7th, 2007 at 07:57 AM

Very interesting to hear you say that Dave. I was under the impression that the MSD was the "ducks nuts" for ignition, I'm being serious. I currently run "pointless" ignition retrofitted into my 009 that was organised by Mathew Berry when he worked for volksrestore and I have never looked back but was thinking of someday upgrading to MSD for improving power, performance, etc, etc. I might just be saving my money now, unless it would give me improvement to match the dollars.


Bizarre - September 7th, 2007 at 09:17 PM

anyone use Scorcher dizzy?


Adsman - September 7th, 2007 at 10:01 PM

Thanks Dave. Im definately removing the points, I have a MSD sitting in the shed from an old race car and was thing of utilising it but from what you say it maybe worth investing the time into carby tuning. Looking more at the motor today it seems to be fine above 2500rpm with fast rpm gain but not much below. Infact it seems to bog for a bit when the pedal is pressed. Now make sense about the carby jets verses timing and ignition. thanks again I will have a bit more of a play


jo_tas - September 9th, 2007 at 11:37 AM

I've been running compufire pointless ignition in my car for a couple of years now.. its great.. haven't had to touch the distributor since!


dangerous - September 10th, 2007 at 06:35 AM

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Originally posted by jo_tas
.. its great.. haven't had to touch the distributor since!


Naughty, naughty, Josie!
Remember that the advance mechanism needs occasional lube(see owners manual).
There is a felt pad inside the shaft underneath the rotor.
It needs one drop of oil every now and then.


jo_tas - September 10th, 2007 at 07:12 PM

Oh, i didn't know that.. thanks Dave!


njg02 - October 6th, 2007 at 11:54 PM

Jo_tas. Was your module a straight install, with no mods to the dizzy? I've just bought one but it won't fit. '73 wagon, manual.