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Power steering to old school beetles
seagull - April 23rd, 2006 at 01:45 AM

I have a few Subaru liberty power steering racks & thinking they would be a good fit for a vw , say a 1960 beetle .The pump would be at the rear of the car with larger lines running to the front .

Thoughts guys ??


VWCOOL - April 23rd, 2006 at 11:18 AM

I recall a huge discussion on R&P conversions, bump steer etc etc here a couple of years ago...? Nice idea, but rather large geometry problems...?


seagull - April 23rd, 2006 at 04:13 PM

I going to have a good look at this


11CAB - April 23rd, 2006 at 05:32 PM

Would you need power steering on an ealry beetle?


helbus - April 23rd, 2006 at 05:55 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 11CAB
Would you need power steering on an ealry beetle?


Hmmmm. I second that question. My wife can turn the steering wheel on her beetle with one hand while driving at walking speed. Certainly not a heavy steering.


urban_myth - April 23rd, 2006 at 07:12 PM

Once lowered with wider wheels it becomes a bit of a problem. My dad looked into it a while back, and it is possible to use a camira rack and pinion setup with some custom tie rod ends. The main reason for using the camira setup was that the steering column connects to it in the centre. Uni joints would be needed to connected to the steering column as it wont line up. He put this setup into a few bay kombis with little bump steer at all.


helbus - April 23rd, 2006 at 07:15 PM

I understand about the wider wheels. Her beetle has skinny tyres, and only lowered a little bit. I suppose it would also get heavier with a smaller steering wheel.


VWCOOL - April 23rd, 2006 at 08:59 PM

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Originally posted by urban_myth
Once lowered with wider wheels it becomes a bit of a problem. My dad looked into it a while back, and it is possible to use a camira rack and pinion setup with some custom tie rod ends. The main reason for using the camira setup was that the steering column connects to it in the centre. Uni joints would be needed to connected to the steering column as it wont line up. He put this setup into a few bay kombis with little bump steer at all.


Yeah the Camira rack is nice as the tie rods are nice and long and pivot close to the centre


Tonz Magonz - April 23rd, 2006 at 09:12 PM

Urban myth,the camira rack into a kombi sounds good.Any pics of the conversion? I am looking at alternatives for a split window kombi with steering box problems. Cheers Tonz


urban_myth - April 24th, 2006 at 09:08 AM

no pics sorry


tassupervee - April 24th, 2006 at 05:57 PM

There are quite a few power assisted racks available with cetrerd pickup points that the serious speedway boys use.
They are not particularly cheap but are bulletproof.

Do Camira racks come power assisted?

L8tr
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Doug Sweetman - April 24th, 2006 at 06:22 PM

Semi interested in this as any 2nd hand rack has to be cheaper than a new Super beetle steering box....


VWCOOL - April 24th, 2006 at 07:19 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by tassupervee
There are quite a few power assisted racks available with cetrerd pickup points that the serious speedway boys use.
They are not particularly cheap but are bulletproof.

Do Camira racks come power assisted?

L8tr
E


yeah good question - I don't think PS was offered on Camira!

Try a late-model Daewoo instead.. which is not what gull has laying about!


urban_myth - April 24th, 2006 at 11:17 PM

Power steering was definitely offered on camira's, go to the nearest pick a part and have a look. The custom bugs and buses stretched kombi had a camira power steering setup in it, as well as their gunmetal grey twincab.


71superbug - April 29th, 2006 at 10:12 PM

how do u go about fitting a camira steering rack?


i was considering the vforce one but i thinki i might crash if i bump the steering wheel with a 1:1.1 ratio.


Anthony

[ Edited on 29-4-2006 by 71superbug ]


seagull - April 30th, 2006 at 02:25 AM

I will be running 20" rims with wide black things & it will be very low


VWCOOL - April 30th, 2006 at 09:57 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by urban_myth
Power steering was definitely offered on camira's, go to the nearest pick a part and have a look. The custom bugs and buses stretched kombi had a camira power steering setup in it, as well as their gunmetal grey twincab.


okay, I wasn't sure