wondering if someone could answer this question is a vw beetle chassis known as a full chassis ? if not how do you tell what is !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! many thanks steve

a full chassis usually means steel tubing

The VW chassis is a floor pan and chassis in one

so then how is a 1 tonne ute classified a chassis car is because it has rails from front to back and if thats the case it wouldnt be hard to convert the floor of a bug to meet this standard .............................

a ute has a full chassis

what r u trying to achieve ???

think of it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! being classified a full chassis car endless power any engine conversion as long as it stops cooooooooooooool hey

an upgrade 13bt at the moment ihave a 12a n/a

I built a chassis for my '54 conversion. I've got it out at the moment while I finish off the floorpan. Weighed it the other day 35kg, including radiator tubes. I'll do a photo later - although if I was doing it again (which I will), I think i'd do it so that the side rails were the radiator tubes

Ok - here it is - excuse the dirt and so, on - I built this thing about 10 or 11 years back.



The front bolts to the U-bolts that hold my Whiteline roll bar to the bottom tube at the front. The flat plate on the left hand side front leg is where I mount the electric fuel pump. You can see the thick plating where the radiator tube comes out at the angle



This shows the cut-out that I made for the jacking point. I've just removed the jacking points and will be welding a ridge for a scissors jack and will be filling these cut-outs. The rear section bolts up to the torsion tube. A bit ugly by my eye these days.




If I was doing it again, I'd probably use lighter tube - and I wouldn't have one tube inside the other - the outer rail would be the radiator tube (I'm running a Subie engine). 35kg is definitely a bit much - ut I didn't have a TIG when I built this (bought one this week )

Ian

vw would be know as a monocoque chassis,which means one that is built into or part of the car

I'd have thought it was definitely NOT a monocoque - given that the body comes off the chassis - its a backbone chassis.

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Originally posted by bugzla think of it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! being classified a full chassis car endless power any engine conversion as long as it stops cooooooooooooool hey

how the plot thickens................. all these interesting points great photos buy the way but would give me the full chassis status which is need for such a conversion keep up the facts all is helpful and maybe you might see the car on the streets earlier then later ...........many thanks stevo

i thought a bit more about it big fella ,after i posted it and think you are right

so wat does that mean for the humble beetle guys and girls

All VW Type 1 Beetles and all Type 3s have a body pan, which is in effect a full length chassis as the body can be removed and the vehicle does not lose any chassis strength.
All of the suspension, steering, brakes, engine, transmission, seats, are connected to the pan/chassis. The body is separate and the strength of the body plays little part in the structural strength of the whole vehicle.
Most pre WW2 cars were built that way with a separate body and chassis.
A monocoque is where the chassis is not separate and the strength of the vehicle is in the unitary construction of framing and the sheet metal in the body panels.
Kombis or Type 2s are sort of monocoques as the chassis and the body are welded into a single unit. That is why you can't make a dune buggy out of a Kombi.
A Holden one tonner has a chassis in the rear secion which is connected to a monocoque body at the front with a suspension and steering sub-assembly bolted to it. A Holden one tonner does not have a full length chassis, nor do most other 2WD cab/chassis utilities.
Many 4WDs have a full chassis. Most of the big ones do, but the Pajero is an exception.
All big trucks still have separate chassis as that is still the only way to get the strength needed.

WARNING

Unless you are a masochist with lots of money, do not modify the chassis of a vehicle in any way whatsoever, because it then becomes an Individualy Constructed Vehicle (ICV) which is in effect a new car.

That is why a new full length dune buggy can have an old engine etc. as it is a Re-bodied or Modified Production Vehicle.

A new short chassis/pan dune buggy must have a modern engine etc. as it is an ICV.

That is why registered short pan dune buggies are becoming more and more valuable as it is virtually impossible to build a new one.

IS THERE ANYMORE PICS OF THIS CHASSIE OF BIG FELLAS FRAME/CHASSIE?