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How hard is it to replace door window scrappers ?
matberry - July 10th, 2008 at 10:35 PM

It's all relative Craig.

How long is a piece of string? Thats what I want to know!


Adsman - July 10th, 2008 at 10:45 PM

simple answer Matberry

A piece of string is precisely twice half its length

:lol:


Brad - July 10th, 2008 at 10:47 PM

not really hard more fiddly. Then again it can be done. Allow an hour each side and you will be right


matberry - July 10th, 2008 at 10:49 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Buggy Brad
not really hard . Allow an hour each side and you will be right


:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:


Craig Torrens - July 10th, 2008 at 10:49 PM

Easy, I will just buy new rubbers and scrappers, and allow 2 hours !

I now it only takes 15mins to remove.

Cheers Brad

Craig t


pod - July 10th, 2008 at 10:50 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Buggy Brad
not really hard more fiddly. Then again it can be done. Allow an hour each side and you will be right

i`ll 2nd that :crazy:


Brad - July 10th, 2008 at 10:55 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by matberry
Quote:
Originally posted by Buggy Brad
not really hard . Allow an hour each side and you will be right


:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:


Why is that funny ?

Get out screw driver, tape shaft so no damage to paint
Remove door trim
Remove two 10mm bolts that hold window channel
Drop window into door shell
Remove old inner scraper
Remove old outer scraper
Fit new outer scraper
Fit New inner scraper
dry lube scrapers
Lift up window
Re-install 10mm bolts
wind up window to test
re-fit door card

yeah it can be a PITA which is why you drop the glass. Depending on the model you may need to drop the 1/4 out but most of the time the beetles are fine.


matberry - July 10th, 2008 at 10:57 PM

Sorry Brad, now you put it like that, it doesn't sound funny, but very easy.


Craig Torrens - July 10th, 2008 at 10:58 PM

Its a 68 beetle Brad.

Do I need to remove the channels the window runs up on the door frame as well as the quarter frame one ?

From memory they have PITA clips that hold them in ?

Matberry, have you done it before ?


trickysimon - July 10th, 2008 at 10:59 PM

After you've done yours I'll bring mine around :lol:
I bought all the scrapers and started putting them in one day.
Only managed to get inside drivers on because i got too frustrated and gave up.
Simon


matberry - July 10th, 2008 at 11:07 PM

Craig, its many times. 10+ years at Volksrestore, I did one or two, although my brother managed the panel section more than me.
Proceedure is important, Brads list will certainly help.
The worst part is the crap quality of most replacement parts.


Craig Torrens - July 10th, 2008 at 11:09 PM

so you should know all the tips ?

what else would you add to brads list ?


matberry - July 10th, 2008 at 11:11 PM

Mate that was nearly ten years ago and I'm just getting into the swing of things,+ bed time and takes way too long typing... You'll be ok, just be very carefull with new paint...

Take your time, reverse the disassembly order exactly when going back together.


Brad - July 10th, 2008 at 11:12 PM

Ok I wasn't posting an exact how to do it and it is to damn cold for me to go outside to the shed and double check.

Yes you need to remove the bailey channel and they PITA clips are easy to remove as long as you remove them correctly and don't just rip them out. The clips are suppose to come out with the bailey channel not stay in the car. They have a retaining tab on the back that you slide up to get it out of the hole (about 5mm). You can pull the bailey out of they but they have teeth and often don't like to let go. To put them back in you clip them in and then push the bailey channel into it

As for times, I will happily do a set fot two hours labour if anyone wants to bring their car over with the correct parts. I don;t see what the big deal is, it isn't even a dirty job.

If you realy hate it then just build a buggy ...


Craig Torrens - July 10th, 2008 at 11:16 PM

hehehehe........yeah thats why i'm restoring a country buggy !!!!

I know its not a big deal....................its just I'm deciding between masking up the existing trim/scrapper (perfect condition) or remove and replace ! I really don't want to get half way through and get the SH#Ts !


matberry - July 10th, 2008 at 11:18 PM

How flash a paint job are you aiming for?


Craig Torrens - July 10th, 2008 at 11:21 PM

yep I'm hearing ya.................remove them :tu:


1303Steve - July 11th, 2008 at 12:00 AM

Hi Craig

I have the perfect tool for doing this job, its a thin flexible plastic wedge, u2 me your address and I post you one. I use them for breaking into cars.

Steve


Brad - July 11th, 2008 at 08:33 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 1303Steve
Hi Craig

I have the perfect tool for doing this job, its a thin flexible plastic wedge, u2 me your address and I post you one. I use them for breaking into cars.

Steve


Can I have one too .. I like tools


Baja Wes - July 11th, 2008 at 09:00 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 1303Steve
Hi Craig

I have the perfect tool for doing this job, its a thin flexible plastic wedge, u2 me your address and I post you one. I use them for breaking into cars.

Steve


Don't U2U him your address, because then he'll come around and steal your car using his thin flexible plastic wedge :lol:


ancientbugger - July 11th, 2008 at 12:39 PM

and if you're lucky he'll fix the window as well:lol:


vwsteve - July 11th, 2008 at 01:07 PM

Do i detect a little tension:lol:


Mick058 - July 11th, 2008 at 02:46 PM

Craig, why don't you get one of the local Vee dub shops to do it?

Can't cost to much...:smilegrin:


ancientbugger - July 11th, 2008 at 04:56 PM

On building my sons baja I was more concerned over doing the door windows than anything else on the car. Wiring can get a bit annoying sometimes but taking it slowly and logically it didn't bother me, but the thought of those PITA clips and the "fragile" trim attached to the outer scraper and my short temper I expected something not nice to happen as it was I had to take two goes to get the first side done (I was replacing all rubbers and refitting all the glass) but it is fiddly to do and I wish I could have done it in an hour per side.


Craig Torrens - July 11th, 2008 at 06:09 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Mick058
Craig, why don't you get one of the local Vee dub shops to do it?

Can't cost to much...:smilegrin:


As a guide, how much did you pay to get your car done ?


Mick058 - July 11th, 2008 at 08:43 PM

as a guide, if every part of the car was an equivalent cost in relation to the 'size' of the job, i would of been better off buying a 2008 Ferrari.

In saying that, i hadn't the time to do the whole car myself, so i paid through the butt for the bits the shops did.


matberry - July 11th, 2008 at 08:55 PM

Aw com'on Craig, it only takes a bit of time..... or money.... or get Brad to do it


Craig Torrens - July 11th, 2008 at 09:04 PM

don't worry Matt, I'm doing it.......................private joke with mick !


helbus - July 12th, 2008 at 04:33 PM

I will do it (parts supplied) for anyone's Beetle as a two hour paying job. I will charge $180 and do it for you.