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bugzla - December 29th, 2010 at 01:55 PM

what the best fan to use and the messurements of it and can you buy them aftermarket or do I have to buy a good second hand one, as my heat in my buggy is extreme after a good run 120 deg c or do i add a external cooler

cheers
Stevo


barls - December 29th, 2010 at 05:34 PM

1302 or 1303 is the biggest there is mate.


bugzla - December 29th, 2010 at 06:52 PM

i find that there is not enough air coming out where the oil cooler im sure there was much more in my other cars ill try another fan housing a original one and see how i go, my question is how big is the biggest fan just to see if i have one that big allready in place
cheers
stevo


barls - December 29th, 2010 at 06:54 PM

no idea off the top of my head but there was only 5-10mm difference in the 1600 ones from when i did my conversion a few years ago.


Joel - December 29th, 2010 at 07:23 PM

Make sure you dont have a single port fan in there.
it's a common mistake and sounds like the problem.
Those are dangerzone temps your running

There is only one size fan for doghouse/twinport engines.
Like barls said the single port fan looks the same but is about 1/4" shorter at the oil cooler end so keeps the cylinders and heads cool but nukes the oil through lack of air flow


bugzla - December 29th, 2010 at 09:08 PM

thanks guys ill sus it ill take the cage and engine out sometime this week thanks again hopefully i have a replacement :)
cheers
stevo


vwo60 - December 31st, 2010 at 10:01 AM

If there is not much air flow out of the dog house cooler you need to check that the cooler is not full of crud, this could be the problem


bugzla - December 31st, 2010 at 10:24 AM

thanks man ........thought of that also so it will also be checked when out on the floor


bugzla - December 31st, 2010 at 10:28 AM

i do remember something when i put the fan in the housing and it hit the inside front of the fan housing so i had to bend it alittle maybe i have a single port doghouse housing is that possiable


68AutoBug - December 31st, 2010 at 04:00 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by bugzla
what the best fan to use and the messurements of it and can you buy them aftermarket or do I have to buy a good second hand one, as my heat in my buggy is extreme after a good run 120 deg c or do i add a external cooler

cheers
Stevo


HI
when My Son bought Me an alternator it had a fan on it...
and naturally I thought it would have been a doghouse fan..
so, I installed it without checking....
I then went into hospital for around a month [summer]
and My Son drove My beetle a bit...
I then found the High temperature paint over the heads had peeled off..
after pulling everything apart I found My generator had a doghouse fan and the alternator a non doghouse fan...

so, now the paint doesn't peel off...

a doghouse fan cannot be fitted to a non doghouse fan housing. its too wide...


68AutoBug - December 31st, 2010 at 04:17 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by bugzla
i do remember something when i put the fan in the housing and it hit the inside front of the fan housing so i had to bend it alittle maybe i have a single port doghouse housing is that possiable


I have had a doghouse fan shroud on My single port engine and now have the original fan shroud back on and am using an external oil cooler...

I really believe I should have just fitted a new doghouse oil cooler
and the fan shroud etc... but..!!

maybe I will do that one day in the future....
just the way Volkswagenwerk intended.... lol

LEE


68AutoBug - December 31st, 2010 at 04:26 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by barls
1302 or 1303 is the biggest there is mate.


and the 1976 Non Super beetle...


Joel - January 1st, 2011 at 09:13 AM

Single port engines were dropped in aus during 1970, everything after was twinport using the same doghouse fan, including all the 71-75 1300 standard "non super beetle"


bugzla - January 1st, 2011 at 09:41 AM

okay this is the thing got a motor no fan housing had a few sitting around got one got a genny with a fan put it on how do i find out what is a single port fan housing and what is a dual port fan housing none of these fan housings are numbered or pulled by myself of engines so i do not know what they are off is there any clear indication what the differences are between the two housings


Joel - January 1st, 2011 at 06:01 PM

Just measure the blade area width

doghouse fans are 38mm like this
A single port fan would only be about 30mm

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/Vbug74/100_3480.jpg


bugzla - January 2nd, 2011 at 08:29 AM

thanks joel


bugzla - January 2nd, 2011 at 08:39 AM

noticed also you have a way bigger gap between the fan and the alt tin ware this could be the cause of the problem cause the fan measures the same........ when i look back at lees pics it sits the same as hes


Joel - January 2nd, 2011 at 12:00 PM

The fan gap is just shimmed to suit the shroud, if the gap is too big or small the fan will rub on the shroud


bugzla - January 2nd, 2011 at 12:10 PM

even with a qwick spin of the gen on the housing you can feel the air so it should be all good now just have to wait till it stops pissin down here


MickH - January 2nd, 2011 at 10:07 PM

Sook:lol:


bugzla - January 3rd, 2011 at 02:52 AM

hey boof head we all havent got a shed as big as house you know .................... heard u got a good deal on a set of headers the other day yo doing a air cooled engined car please tell ;)


bugzla - January 3rd, 2011 at 09:38 AM

the new housing is on and it blow a gail through the oil cooler awesome thank you so much for ya help everyone cant wait for a test drive .......................... back under the house i go to strip apart another motor for parts for another :lol: when does it all stop


MickH - January 3rd, 2011 at 01:51 PM

yeh....1 aircooled with a steroid engine:starhit:


bugzla - January 3rd, 2011 at 06:52 PM

the amazing things you find in that shed of yours ................................ man o man


MickH - January 3rd, 2011 at 07:12 PM

Got another Manx on Friday as well....it never ends:lol: